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Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5 [2 Attachments]
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wa0tjt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 16:40:59 UTC
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Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.


This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.


I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.


Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!


I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.


If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.


I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.


Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.


Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Jeff Francis jeff-CDdbmnNP9qodnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:16:33 UTC
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Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.

-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
David Kaplan dhkaplan-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:33:20 UTC
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Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?

Good luck,

David, WA1OUI

On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Jeff Francis jeff-CDdbmnNP9qodnm+***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:


Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.

-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Barry Porter BarryP13-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:38:57 UTC
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Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.

Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:44:16 UTC
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Barry,

That sounds like your security settings.

Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.

Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.



--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US (http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&amp;locale=en_US)
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Barry Porter BarryP13-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 20:26:07 UTC
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That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(

Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 20:28:19 UTC
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Barry,

You need to reload your font database. This should solve your problem.

73

--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"
That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(
Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com (http://www.machamradio.com/)
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US (http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&amp;locale=en_US)
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Barry Porter BarryP13-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 20:34:05 UTC
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I deleted the caches and it didn’t help. How do I reload the font database?

Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
You need to reload your font database. This should solve your problem.
73
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(
Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Robert Stiles kk5vd-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 22:25:00 UTC
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I've seen this issue before in both older version of MacOSX and FLDIGI. But for the life of me I don't recall what the fix was. If I had to start some where. Execute Font Book located in your Application folder. Under "File" menu run Validate Fonts to see if there are any bad fonts. If found remove them. Then reboot your system. See if that helps.

You can also restore your fonts to the standard set using this program, Just poke around in the menu's and you will find it.

Robert
KK5VD


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From: "Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5




That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(

Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Barry Porter BarryP13-ee4meeAH724@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 22:29:56 UTC
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I had Arial and Verdana Fonts disabled, because I real had no use for them. Once I re enabled Ariel and Verdana, it looks normal (for now),
It shouldn’t require theses fonts, as they are non standard Mac Fonts.

Barry, KB1PA
Post by Robert Stiles kk5vd-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I've seen this issue before in both older version of MacOSX and FLDIGI. But for the life of me I don't recall what the fix was. If I had to start some where. Execute Font Book located in your Application folder. Under "File" menu run Validate Fonts to see if there are any bad fonts. If found remove them. Then reboot your system. See if that helps.
You can also restore your fonts to the standard set using this program, Just poke around in the menu's and you will find it.
Robert
KK5VD
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5
That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(
Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Robert Stiles kk5vd-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 22:46:15 UTC
Permalink
Berry, Understand your point, but the OS should have revert to using helvetica which is almost identical to Ariel. As to why, I don't have that answer, maybe Apple doesn't like Micro$oft which is where Arial font comes from.

You might want to keep those font install, because lots of PDF's and Web pages use those fonts. This would help to ensure the proper formatting of those documents because of the minor differences between those fonts and the selected substitutions.

Robert


________________________________
From: "Barry Porter BarryP13-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5




I had Arial and Verdana Fonts disabled, because I real had no use for them. Once I re enabled Ariel and Verdana, it looks normal (for now),
It shouldn’t require theses fonts, as they are non standard Mac Fonts.


Barry, KB1PA
Post by Robert Stiles kk5vd-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I've seen this issue before in both older version of MacOSX and FLDIGI. But for the life of me I don't recall what the fix was. If I had to start some where. Execute Font Book located in your Application folder. Under "File" menu run Validate Fonts to see if there are any bad fonts. If found remove them. Then reboot your system. See if that helps.
You can also restore your fonts to the standard set using this program, Just poke around in the menu's and you will find it.
Robert
KK5VD
________________________________
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5
That worked, but all the menu’s are upside down and backwards :(:(
Barry
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Barry,
That sounds like your security settings.
Go to Security & Privacy in the system preferences. On the General tab, “Allow apps downloaded from:” Set it for “Anywhere and see if that runs now.
Alternately, you can right click on the file, select “Open” and it will ask you if your certain. Open the file and it should run.
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Where can I find “older” versions of fldigi? Version 3.21.83 says it is damaged after downloading and will not install in Mavericks 10.9.5.
It does run un the beta of Yosemite.
Barry
Can you make a copy of the xml file before and after and compare them for differences?
Post by David Kaplan dhkaplan-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Good luck,
David, WA1OUI
Have you tried a newer and/or older version of FLDigi? Might help narrow down the problem if they react differently.
-=Jeff=-
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:47:58 UTC
Permalink
Keith,
I have rarely seen this kind of problem on OS X with Fldigi. It sounds like a corrupted preferences setting. Some setting you have set isn’t working for your system.

I’d recommend you zap the preferences file and start from scratch. Make one change, save it, and exit then restart. Go through each change one at a time until it crashes. That will tell you the setting you have that is bad.


Dave
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US (http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&amp;locale=en_US)
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 17:51:04 UTC
Permalink
Also Keith/Barry,

Make sure you are downloading the version for i386, not PPC. The correct version can be downloaded here: fldigi-3.21.83 i386 dmg (http://www.w1hkj.com/downloads/fldigi/fldigi-3.21.83_i386.dmg)





--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Keith,
I have rarely seen this kind of problem on OS X with Fldigi. It sounds like a corrupted preferences setting. Some setting you have set isn’t working for your system.
I’d recommend you zap the preferences file and start from scratch. Make one change, save it, and exit then restart. Go through each change one at a time until it crashes. That will tell you the setting you have that is bad.
Dave
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com (http://www.machamradio.com)
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US (http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&amp;locale=en_US)
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Keith Kaiser wa0tjt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 18:03:46 UTC
Permalink
No I have not tried downloading an older version. However I have used every version up to this latest one for the past 5 years.

I am using/downloading the correct version.

I will do one preference at a time, but not happily. I’ve actually done modified versions of this, a couple at a time for example to no avail. It fails in a different spot all the time.

I’ll get back to you.
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Also Keith/Barry,
Make sure you are downloading the version for i386, not PPC. The correct version can be downloaded here: fldigi-3.21.83 i386 dmg
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Keith,
I have rarely seen this kind of problem on OS X with Fldigi. It sounds like a corrupted preferences setting. Some setting you have set isn’t working for your system.
I’d recommend you zap the preferences file and start from scratch. Make one change, save it, and exit then restart. Go through each change one at a time until it crashes. That will tell you the setting you have that is bad.
Dave
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Larry Levesque ka1vgm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 19:36:36 UTC
Permalink
I don't know if has been suggested yet, but try setting up only your
call sign after you do a fresh install.

See if it still crashes upon restart.

Then if that works, try tweaking one setting at a time between restarts
and note what you have done and when it fails and let us know.
Post by Keith Kaiser wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
No I have not tried downloading an older version. However I have used
every version up to this latest one for the past 5 years.
I am using/downloading the correct version.
I will do one preference at a time, but not happily. I’ve actually
done modified versions of this, a couple at a time for example to no
avail. It fails in a different spot all the time.
I’ll get back to you.
--
*KA1VGM
Larry Levesque*
Keith Kaiser wa0tjt-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 18:47:06 UTC
Permalink
I’ve walked through a lot of configuration. So far it looks like the problem might be in;

Configure—>UI—>General when you select ‘Check for updates when starting program’. With that option checked the program fails at launch every time.

I’m still doing more testing but this is a promising development.
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Also Keith/Barry,
Make sure you are downloading the version for i386, not PPC. The correct version can be downloaded here: fldigi-3.21.83 i386 dmg
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Keith,
I have rarely seen this kind of problem on OS X with Fldigi. It sounds like a corrupted preferences setting. Some setting you have set isn’t working for your system.
I’d recommend you zap the preferences file and start from scratch. Make one change, save it, and exit then restart. Go through each change one at a time until it crashes. That will tell you the setting you have that is bad.
Dave
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
Robert Stiles kk5vd-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-05 22:55:32 UTC
Permalink
Keith,

Problem Confirmed, Will investigate, and make a code change if needed. For now keep the option disabled.

Robert
KK5VD


________________________________
From: "Keith Kaiser wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Launch failure of fldigi on Mac Mavericks v10.9.5




I’ve walked through a lot of configuration. So far it looks like the problem might be in;


Configure—>UI—>General when you select ‘Check for updates when starting program’. With that option checked the program fails at launch every time.

I’m still doing more testing but this is a promising development.
Post by Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Also Keith/Barry,
Make sure you are downloading the version for i386, not PPC. The correct version can be downloaded here: fldigi-3.21.83 i386 dmg
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Keith,
I have rarely seen this kind of problem on OS X with Fldigi. It sounds like a corrupted preferences setting. Some setting you have set isn’t working for your system.
I’d recommend you zap the preferences file and start from scratch. Make one change, save it, and exit then restart. Go through each change one at a time until it crashes. That will tell you the setting you have that is bad.
Dave
--
Dave Wright
K3DCW
www.machamradio.com
“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by wa0tjt-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Because fldigi kept dying at launch on my MacBook Pro I took it into the Apple Store and worked with one of their Genius's for over two hours to try and resolve the issue. Everything was checked from the installed RAM to the permissions to the HD to the OS itself. Nothing was found that would explain the problem. After all that work it was his recommendation that I wipe the HD, reload the OS and basically start off with a clean slate.
This laptop is only used for Amateur Radio so I really had nothing to lose by doing this. Following the guidelines published by Apple I deleted everything on my HD, reformatted it as instructed and reloaded OSX. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14243?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
First time I've had a dedicated Mac for just my Ham Radio work. After setting my preferences the first software I downloaded was the fldigi suite including flmsg, flog, flrig, etc. I spent 10 minutes carefully configuring fldigi for my operation which uses a SignaLink and CI-V cable. Signals were coming in, I was able to transmit, log, control the rig with CAT, the world looked good. I even worked a couple of stations on BPSK31.
I've included the fldigi_def.xml file for your use as well.
Then I quit fldigi, and immediately re-launched it. IT DIED ON LAUNCH!
I was willing to believe that the problem had been some complex but real interaction between fldigi and all the other software I had on my Mac. But now with a brand spanking new install I'm not. The problem MUST be in fldigi.
If I throw out the fldigi_def.xml file and rebuild it, fldigi will work perfectly until I quit and relaunch. Then I have to start all over again.
I'm asking the developers to please take a look at what the issue could be. I've included the dialog that details the issue.
Thanks in advance and if you need additional information I'm happy to give it to you.
Good Luck!
73's -- Keith, WA0TJT
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