Discussion:
Trying to set up KISS mode on a Tiny Trak 4
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David Holman aikidave20-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-18 23:23:13 UTC
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I am trying to set up a Tiny Trak 4 to operate in KISS mode as a packet
TNC. I have it set up to be a tracker right now. I have been trying to
talk to it through the terminal in Linux and I am missing something.
Could someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks

David, AC7DS





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Robert Stiles kk5vd-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-18 23:58:36 UTC
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David, the KISS interface is designed to connect to BPQ32 and uses FLDIGI as a modem aka TNC. TNC (Tiny 4) to TNC (FLDIGI) is not supported. The interface is designed to except and transfer data from software using the KISS protocol over UDP/IP and to be transmitted using FLDIGI.

Robert




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I am trying to set up a Tiny Trak 4 to operate in KISS mode as a packet
TNC. I have it set up to be a tracker right now. I have been trying to
talk to it through the terminal in Linux and I am missing something.
Could someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks

David, AC7DS
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-19 00:17:56 UTC
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Best bet is to hook up a KISS TNC port on BPQ32 (set up as a node), and
have FLDIGI/KISS on another BPQ32 port.

I do this here with FLDIGI handling HF, and the KISS TNC taking care of
VHF. - Or both on HF, both on VHF, whatever you prefer.

There is an option on BPQ32 where when one port is active, the other one
cannot Xmit... This way, it is feasible to have two separate BPQ ports
utilizing the same radio. I have done this in the past, it takes some
tinkering but it does work. Kind of advanced, I used it for a short
while and went over to using separate radios for each port, which really
is best.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by Robert Stiles kk5vd-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
David, the KISS interface is designed to connect to BPQ32 and uses
FLDIGI as a modem aka TNC. TNC (Tiny 4) to TNC (FLDIGI) is not
supported. The interface is designed to except and transfer data from
software using the KISS protocol over UDP/IP and to be transmitted
using FLDIGI.
Robert
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*Sent:* Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [linuxham] Trying to set up KISS mode on a Tiny Trak 4
I am trying to set up a Tiny Trak 4 to operate in KISS mode as a packet
TNC. I have it set up to be a tracker right now. I have been trying to
talk to it through the terminal in Linux and I am missing something.
Could someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
David, AC7DS
David Holman aikidave20-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-19 05:59:08 UTC
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Robert,

I am actually trying to set this up to use D-RATS as the KISS
controller. I didn't even know that FLDIGI would do that. Setting up
the KISS control in D-RATS is fairly straight forward. I am having
difficulty sending configuration commands through the serial port to the
Tiny Trak. I can't set the Tiny Trak into KISS mode. I am not sure
what a BPQ32 is, but now I have something I can do some research on.

Thanks

David, AC7DS
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Best bet is to hook up a KISS TNC port on BPQ32 (set up as a node),
and have FLDIGI/KISS on another BPQ32 port.
I do this here with FLDIGI handling HF, and the KISS TNC taking care
of VHF. - Or both on HF, both on VHF, whatever you prefer.
There is an option on BPQ32 where when one port is active, the other
one cannot Xmit... This way, it is feasible to have two separate BPQ
ports utilizing the same radio. I have done this in the past, it takes
some tinkering but it does work. Kind of advanced, I used it for a
short while and went over to using separate radios for each port,
which really is best.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by Robert Stiles kk5vd-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
David, the KISS interface is designed to connect to BPQ32 and uses
FLDIGI as a modem aka TNC. TNC (Tiny 4) to TNC (FLDIGI) is not
supported. The interface is designed to except and transfer data
from software using the KISS protocol over UDP/IP and to be
transmitted using FLDIGI.
Robert
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*Sent:* Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [linuxham] Trying to set up KISS mode on a Tiny Trak 4
I am trying to set up a Tiny Trak 4 to operate in KISS mode as a packet
TNC. I have it set up to be a tracker right now. I have been trying to
talk to it through the terminal in Linux and I am missing something.
Could someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
David, AC7DS
David Ranch linuxham-fld-U76wwbNhhF3R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-19 16:00:26 UTC
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Hello David,

I don't have a TT4 but looking at the manual (
http://www.byonics.com/tinytrak4/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v7.1.pdf
):

- You need to connect the computer via the J2 DB9 serial connector
(pins 2, 3, 5). The manual stipulates needing a null modem adapter to
communicate to PCs (connections to a DTE type device vs DCE).
- Confirm your voltage level setting for pins 2/3 via the JP7A
jumper (set it to RS232 and not TTL level)
- How are you powering the TT4? You normally do NOT power it from
the J2 connection to the PC unless you create a special cable

Finally, via the FAQ at
http://vk7hse.hobby-site.org/wiki/doku.php/wiki:tinytrak4 , you need to
connect from your terminal program at 19200 n81 with no flow control.
Upon power up, you should hit the ESC key RAPIDLY three times to get a
command prompt. After that, you should tune the TNC with your radio
with the various commands like "CALIBRATE", etc. Once your levels are
right, do a "AMODE KISS" command and it should be permanently stored and
restored when the device is restarted, etc. I would recommend you also
use "CDMODE TONES" to support unsquelched audio but that's up to you.
Do a search for "TinyTrak4 Alpha settings are adjusted" on this Wiki
page to get additional details.

GL!

--David
KI6ZHD




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