Discussion:
Packet software
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-21 20:47:40 UTC
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Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
Matt VK2RQ matt.vk2rq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-21 21:05:30 UTC
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I run packet node and BBS on a Linux netbook, and am using sound cards to decode/encode the packets. I am using the Linux user space soundmodem program from Thomas Sailer. For fun I want to try the newer DireWolf soundmodem program, as I've heard some good things about it.

Here are some links I gathered in my setting-up-packet-on-Linux adventures:
http://www.vk2rq.ampr.org/packet.html

73,
Matt VK2RQ
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
Larry Levesque ka1vgm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-21 22:07:12 UTC
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KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.

You can't get much more simple than that.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
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Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org


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Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 00:27:53 UTC
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For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.

Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.

Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.

Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL







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w1hkj w1hkj-Bdlq13kUjeyLZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 01:22:20 UTC
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I run Oracles Virtual Box on:

* Windows-8.1
* Linux Mint-17
* OS X

and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports several
virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes vintage 1981).

I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with the
"Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel. It will
not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow the
installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up and
running in no time.

Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-24 15:38:15 UTC
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I have downloaded, burned and tried to install the Mint17 Mate ISO under
Virtualbox twice, and have not had any success so far. - It gives me a
grey screen with the Mint logo in the VB - but no install occurs.

There are a plethora of things that I might not have done right I
suppose, and tracking down what it may be is discouraging. I'll keep at
it but at this point I am not as optimistic as I was when I first had
the idea.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by w1hkj w1hkj-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
* Windows-8.1
* Linux Mint-17
* OS X
and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports
several virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes
vintage 1981).
I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with the
"Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel. It
will not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow the
installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up and
running in no time.
Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Ernest Wagner aa1ad-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-24 19:08:55 UTC
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Did you verify the integrity of the download by checking its MD5sum?
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290 to download the File Checksum
Integrity Verifier (FCIV). and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889768
for its usage. Although it is unsupported, MS does provides it as a
customer service.

I don't know if I would trust any of the free ones that are advertised
for Windows use.

There is a possibility that the ISO was corrupted upon download and
checking the MD5 is the easiest to eliminate the possibility.
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I have downloaded, burned and tried to install the Mint17 Mate ISO
under Virtualbox twice, and have not had any success so far. - It
gives me a grey screen with the Mint logo in the VB - but no install
occurs.
There are a plethora of things that I might not have done right I
suppose, and tracking down what it may be is discouraging. I'll keep
at it but at this point I am not as optimistic as I was when I first
had the idea.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by w1hkj w1hkj-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
* Windows-8.1
* Linux Mint-17
* OS X
and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports
several virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes
vintage 1981).
I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with
the "Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel.
It will not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow
the installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up
and running in no time.
Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps
fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
--
73 From Ernie D

AA1AD | CN87ug



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David Sanders W4DES w4des-69o/bIEdu2Amz2Dbq8P9jA@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-24 19:53:26 UTC
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Make sure you have sufficient memory in virtual machine. 1GB may not be enough for installation because it is using memory as it’s file system.

73, David W4DES
I have downloaded, burned and tried to install the Mint17 Mate ISO under Virtualbox twice, and have not had any success so far. - It gives me a grey screen with the Mint logo in the VB - but no install occurs.
There are a plethora of things that I might not have done right I suppose, and tracking down what it may be is discouraging. I'll keep at it but at this point I am not as optimistic as I was when I first had the idea.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by w1hkj w1hkj-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Windows-8.1
Linux Mint-17
OS X
and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports several virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes vintage 1981).
I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with the "Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel. It will not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow the installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up and running in no time.
Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
mitchwinkle-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-26 18:01:44 UTC
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My tests with sound modem with three different sound cards including Signalink vs. A real TNC and the TNC is much better (KAM-XL). Much more sensitive to received signals and the other end of the circuit seems to like it better and with lower power. My final setup will be a TNC-X. No sense paying for a multi mode TNC when all you will do is packet. And you have to put a real TNC into KISS mode most if the time anyway. I use linbpq as my program. Terminal is in a web browser. You can choose which "modules to enable".
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-26 22:13:07 UTC
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This is a nice unit but one thing. A ready built unit costs around $130 buck plus shipping of $20 dollars that is 150 bucks. I can buy a KPC-3 plus with mail box for $199 shipping free and this includes warranty. A mirror difference of $40 dollars. If something goes wrong with the kpc-3 I can take it back to the store and the tnc-x you can not.
Rich/W7EET



On Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:01 AM, "mitchwinkle-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
My tests with sound modem with three different sound cards including Signalink vs. A real TNC and the TNC is much better (KAM-XL). Much more sensitive to received signals and the other end of the circuit seems to like it better and with lower power. My final setup will be a TNC-X. No sense paying for a multi mode TNC when all you will do is packet. And you have to put a real TNC into KISS mode most if the time anyway. I use linbpq as my program. Terminal is in a web browser. You can choose which "modules to enable".
mitchwinkle-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-09 01:35:20 UTC
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So Richard,

What will you use the "mailbox" for? Does your area have a lot of BBS message traffic? Will you have a local BBS that will forward to you directly, or will you just be expecting people to connect to you to leave you messages?

If you run with a host mode TNC and mailbox, I THINK..that you'll be running some simple dumb terminal software like GTKTerm to access it in Linux. If that's the case, save your $40 and put it to a better antenna or something. Use the local BBS to get your messages. That's what they are for. You'll still be using a dumb terminal unless you install a more complicated setup like Linbpq, jNOS, Paclink-unix or others. Almost all of the good software for Linux will use the TNC in KISS mode. It is just too difficult to code software to multiple host modes when they almost all work in KISS mode and accomplish exactly the same thing.

Not a thing in the world wrong with a KPC3+, but a TNC-X can be pluggged into a USB port directly with no wall wart for power and that makes life simpler, especially for your NEXT pc which will definitely NOT have an RS-232 port. That being said, the TNC-X DOES have a standard DB-9 serial port also just in case. Powering the computer off and on, and the TNC off and on, can throw a traditional host mode TNC out of KISS mode, which can be a hassle. A straight up KISS TNC simplifies life....even for Windows users. ;)

Just some more food for thought.

73,

Mitch
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-09 01:52:21 UTC
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Will note that BPQ32 BBS can be set up as a personal mailbox and works
very well for that.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL



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mitchwinkle-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-10 01:09:20 UTC
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Yep. Another good reason for a KISS mode TNC Charles. Simplifies even BPQ which only has a handful of host mode drivers.

---In ***@yahoogroups.com, <***@...> wrote :

Will note that BPQ32 BBS can be set up as a personal mailbox and works
very well for that.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-10 12:27:59 UTC
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I use MixW in virtual KISS mode for my VHF port with BPQBBS. Virtual
null-modems make this happen without having to use Com ports for the
interconnect. On HF, I use FLDIGI in KISS 10 and generally operate in
either MFSK32 or 5XPSK63R mode, depending upon who I am connecting to.

The 8PSK modes would be superior to Packet for VHF - but there's nobody
else locally who likes to try the new stuff.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by mitchwinkle-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Yep. Another good reason for a KISS mode TNC Charles. Simplifies
even BPQ which only has a handful of host mode drivers.
Will note that BPQ32 BBS can be set up as a personal mailbox and works
very well for that.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-09 01:58:17 UTC
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Mitch:
I am keeping this just really simple as possible. Plan jane computer, KPC-3 kantronics, and a kenwood 2 meter radio at 5 watts. This will be backed up with a UPS and a car battery. I just want a packet software only with mail box  at my QTH so other hams that are trying to contact me can so by leaving a mail message at my TNC. no APRS, No GPS, No BBs and so on Mitch. Do not need any other modes just packet. For an example: You lived in LA and you want to leave me a message in Oregon. Do a node connection to Oregon and connect to my TNC leave a message and that is it. Simple. Or a keyboard to keyboard  QSO.
Rich/W7EET



On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:35 PM, "mitchwinkle-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
So Richard,

What will you use the "mailbox" for?  Does your area have a lot of BBS message traffic?  Will you have a local BBS that will forward to you directly, or will you just be expecting people to connect to you to leave you messages?

If you run with a host mode TNC and mailbox, I THINK..that you'll be running some simple dumb terminal software like GTKTerm to access it in Linux.  If that's the case, save your $40 and put it to a better antenna or something.  Use the local BBS to get your messages.  That's what they are for.  You'll still be using a dumb terminal unless you install a more complicated setup like Linbpq, jNOS, Paclink-unix or others.  Almost all of the good software for Linux will use the TNC in KISS mode.  It is just too difficult to code software to multiple host modes when they almost all work in KISS mode and accomplish exactly the same thing.

Not a thing in the world wrong with a KPC3+, but a TNC-X can be pluggged into a USB port directly with no wall wart for power and that makes life simpler, especially for your NEXT pc which will definitely NOT have an RS-232 port.  That being said, the TNC-X DOES have a standard DB-9 serial port also just in case.  Powering the computer off and on, and the TNC off and on, can throw a traditional host mode TNC out of KISS mode, which can be a hassle.  A straight up KISS TNC simplifies life....even for Windows users. ;)

Just some more food for thought.

73,

Mitch
mitchwinkle-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-10 01:13:36 UTC
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I understand Rich. Sounds like you could go either way, but if the KPC3+ works for you go for it! As Charles mentioned, the BPQ BBS software allows you to have a pretty full featured mail drop and chat as well. I like it because it's flexible, but sounds like you want something very straightforward. It also has a web browser interface which is way easier to use for reading messages, and allows you to cut and paste them into text files if you want to save something. A bit more tricky with a dumb terminal.

I am always thinking about the next thing to play with also, as I am an experimenter.


Sounds like you have it all worked out! Have fun!


73,


Mitch
BT Yahoo!©2013 robert.farey-FhtRXb7CoQBt1OO0OYaSVA@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-09 07:17:37 UTC
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Hi Richard
                    You do need to be using your own BBS to receive any mail besides being a bulletin board it is a mail box.                              best regards Robert G6LLP




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From: "mitchwinkle-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2014, 2:35
Subject: [linuxham] Re: Packet software



 
So Richard,

What will you use the "mailbox" for?  Does your area have a lot of BBS message traffic?  Will you have a local BBS that will forward to you directly, or will you just be expecting people to connect to you to leave you messages?

If you run with a host mode TNC and mailbox, I THINK..that you'll be running some simple dumb terminal software like GTKTerm to access it in Linux.  If that's the case, save your $40 and put it to a better antenna or something.  Use the local BBS to get your messages.  That's what they are for.  You'll still be using a dumb terminal unless you install a more complicated setup like Linbpq, jNOS, Paclink-unix or others.  Almost all of the good software for Linux will use the TNC in KISS mode.  It is just too difficult to code software to multiple host modes when they almost all work in KISS mode and accomplish exactly the same thing.

Not a thing in the wor
ld wrong with a KPC3+, but a TNC-X can be pluggged into a USB port directly with no wall wart for power and that makes life simpler, especially for your NEXT pc which will definitely NOT have an RS-232 port.  That being said, the TNC-X DOES have a standard DB-9 serial port also just in case.  Powering the computer off and on, and the TNC off and on, can throw a traditional host mode TNC out of KISS mode, which can be a hassle.  A straight up KISS TNC simplifies life....even for Windows users. ;)

Just some more food for thought.

73,

Mitch
Matt VK2RQ matt.vk2rq-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-26 22:39:20 UTC
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What do you mean you "burned" the ISO? You don't need to put it on physical media, just attach the ISO file you downloaded to the virtual machine as a virtual CD drive.

You might want to check if you have virtualisation extensions enabled in the bios on your host machine. Also, when you declared the virtual machine on Virtual Box, did you select the appropriate VM type for the ISO image you downloaded (eg. Linux, Debian? 32bit or 64bit? I'm not familiar with Mint distribution, so I don't know the appropriate settings by heart).

73,
Matt VK2RQ
I have downloaded, burned and tried to install the Mint17 Mate ISO under Virtualbox twice, and have not had any success so far. - It gives me a grey screen with the Mint logo in the VB - but no install occurs.
There are a plethora of things that I might not have done right I suppose, and tracking down what it may be is discouraging. I'll keep at it but at this point I am not as optimistic as I was when I first had the idea.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by w1hkj w1hkj-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Windows-8.1
Linux Mint-17
OS X
and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports several virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes vintage 1981).
I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with the "Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel. It will not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow the installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up and running in no time.
Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-26 22:46:52 UTC
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I burnt the ISO image onto a CD and attempted to instal from the CD.

Thanks for cluing me in on this being unnecessary. - I'll try doing it
as you suggest.

I believe I chose the right VM type, but will verify that.

Fooling around, I set up a VM for Wim98 and found that it would only
support 640x480 16 color graphics. I'm hoping for a better result with a
linux VM.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by Matt VK2RQ matt.vk2rq-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
What do you mean you "burned" the ISO? You don't need to put it on
physical media, just attach the ISO file you downloaded to the virtual
machine as a virtual CD drive.
You might want to check if you have virtualisation extensions enabled
in the bios on your host machine. Also, when you declared the virtual
machine on Virtual Box, did you select the appropriate VM type for the
ISO image you downloaded (eg. Linux, Debian? 32bit or 64bit? I'm not
familiar with Mint distribution, so I don't know the appropriate
settings by heart).
73,
Matt VK2RQ
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I have downloaded, burned and tried to install the Mint17 Mate ISO
under Virtualbox twice, and have not had any success so far. - It
gives me a grey screen with the Mint logo in the VB - but no install
occurs.
There are a plethora of things that I might not have done right I
suppose, and tracking down what it may be is discouraging. I'll keep
at it but at this point I am not as optimistic as I was when I first
had the idea.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by w1hkj w1hkj-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
* Windows-8.1
* Linux Mint-17
* OS X
and it preforms perfectly on all three. The Win8.1 VM supports
several virtual machines, including Mint-15, Fedora-19, DOS (yes
vintage 1981).
I would recommend that you install either Mint-13 or Mint-17 with
the "Mate" UI. Mate is very much like Win-7 for the look and feel.
It will not take long for you to become familiar with it. Follow the
installation instructions on the fldigi wiki and you'll be up and
running in no time.
Dave
Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
For years I have utilized Puppy Linux and DSL linux, usually off of a
thumb-drive. Now I'm interested in running Linux in an Oracle VM virtual
box in my Win7 machine.
Am looking at Mint Cinnamon but thought I ought to ask more
experienced
hams first for a distro suggestion.
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Something to play around with, maybe do my web browsing on.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
mm0fmf mm0fmf-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 09:57:35 UTC
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Post by Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Am not interested in dual-boot or 'escaping Windows", I like Win7 just
fine, am a gamer. - I'm looking for something perhaps fuller-featured
than the tiny distros that I have used in the past, if a VM will handle
that.
Charles,

I use both VMware and Virtualbox both at home and at work.

Using VMware player (free version)
host = Mint-13 32bit: Win XP runs fine.
host = Win7 Enterprise 64: Debian 7 AMD64 runs fine.

Using Virtualbox:
host = Ubuntu 12.04.04 64bit: Ubuntu 12.04.04 32bit, used for checking
no 64bit software has escaped into 32 bit product releases.
host = Win7 Enterprise 64: self built LFS (Linux from scratch)

You need to ensure you share the right devices/disk access rights on the
virtualisation software. I preferred VMware over Virtualbox, but that's
just a personal preference. Both work and do what is needed.

Andy


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Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 00:38:40 UTC
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I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of course, I will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is the packet software to download onto the linux. I am looking at Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN


ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
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  I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at 145.05. It would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also. So I could recieve msg's stored just like an email except it will be for hamradio only and none commerical.
Rich/W7EET



On Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:07 PM, "Larry Levesque ka1vgm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.

You can't get much more simple than that.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
Dave Morton dave.w7dmm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 01:09:51 UTC
Permalink
Hi Rich,

The DR-135 (or, at least the one that I have) TNC does not have a mailbox
built in. I have a Kantronics KPC-3+ for the MB function.

Dave
W7DMM
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of course, I
will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is the packet
software to download onto the linux. I am looking at Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
[image: image] <http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
View on www.hamradio.com
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
Preview by Yahoo
I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at 145.05. It
would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also. So I could recieve
msg's stored just like an email except it will be for hamradio only and
none commerical.
Rich/W7EET
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.
You can't get much more simple than that.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using
for
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with
linux
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 03:08:56 UTC
Permalink
Things like this I need to know. Thanks for let me know and I will persue the k plus 3. Of course I will need to look at another radio. what one would be the most user friendly? The antenna will be outside and I have 12 vdc with backup.

Rich/W7EET



On Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:10 PM, "Dave Morton dave.w7dmm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
Hi Rich, 

The DR-135 (or, at least the one that I have) TNC does not have a mailbox built in. I have a Kantronics KPC-3+ for the MB function. 

Dave 
W7DMM 
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
 
I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of course, I will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is the packet software to download onto the linux. I am looking at Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
View on www.hamradio.com Preview by Yahoo
  I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at 145.05. It would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also. So I could recieve msg's stored just like an email except it will be for hamradio only and none commerical.
Rich/W7EET
 
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.
You can't get much more simple than that.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
Remi Chateauneu rchateauneu-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 06:45:18 UTC
Permalink
Soundmodem is what you need:

It comes as a package with Linux :

https://packages.debian.org/stable/hamradio/soundmodem

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man8/soundmodem.8.html

Detailed explanations here:

http://www.george-smart.co.uk/wiki/AX25_Soundmodem

"Soundmodem <http://www.baycom.org/%7Etom/ham/soundmodem/> is a
Multiplatform Soundcard Packet Radio Modem written by Thomas Sailer,
HB9JNX/AE4WA. The software allows a standard PC sound-card to be used as
a packet radio "modem" with all processing done on the main computer CPU.


On this page I will describe how to get the basic network interface
working and how that can be used with XASTIR
<http://www.xastir.org/wiki/Main_Page>, a amateur radio based digital
communication system for real-time exchange of digital information to
users on the APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System) network, 144.8000
MHz in Europe. I also extended the settings to experiment with TCP/IP
over AX25, for the technical exercise. These TCP/IP experiments are
outside the scope of the basic sound modem and may (in the future) make
another article of their own!"


Honestly this is an excellent software, which could run on slow machines
ten years ago, with less than 3% CPU ...

Remi
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of course,
I will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is the packet
software to download onto the linux. I am looking at Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
image <http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
View on www.hamradio.com
<http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-008740>
Preview by Yahoo
I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at
145.05. It would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also. So
I could recieve msg's stored just like an email except it will be for
hamradio only and none commerical.
Rich/W7EET
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.
You can't get much more simple than that.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 01:47:40PM -0700, Richard Dowty
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer
using for
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with
linux
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 12:17:48 UTC
Permalink
That is great except I use Fedora 20. I tried to download the Fedora repositories and the software is no longer available or out dated. So I had tried to access other types and it would not let me download the software.
Now what? Am I to do?
I do not like windows.
Rich/W7EET



On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:45 PM, "Remi Chateauneu ***@hotmail.com [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
Soundmodem is what you need:

It comes as a package with Linux :

https://packages.debian.org/stable/hamradio/soundmodem

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man8/soundmodem.8.html

Detailed explanations here:

http://www.george-smart.co.uk/wiki/AX25_Soundmodem

"Soundmodem is a Multiplatform Soundcard Packet Radio Modem written by Thomas Sailer, HB9JNX/AE4WA. The software allows a standard PC sound-card to be used as a packet radio "modem" with all processing done on the main computer CPU.

On this page I will describe how to get the basic network
interface working and how that can be used with XASTIR, a amateur radio based digital communication system for real-time exchange of digital information to users on the APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System) network, 144.8000 MHz in Europe. I also extended the settings to experiment with TCP/IP over AX25, for the technical exercise. These TCP/IP experiments are outside the scope of the basic sound modem and may (in the future) make another article of their own!"
Honestly this is an excellent software, which could run on slow
machines ten years ago, with less than 3% CPU ...

Remi


Le 22.06.2014 01:38, Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] a écrit :
 
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of course, I will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is the packet software to download onto the linux. I am looking at Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
View on www.hamradio.com Preview by Yahoo
  I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at 145.05. It would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also. So I could recieve msg's stored just like an email except it will be for hamradio only and none commerical.
Rich/W7EET
 
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.
You can't get much more simple than
that.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 01:47:40PM
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate
software(written in linux) just for
computer using for
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS.
What would be a nice tnc to use with
linux
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
Ernest Wagner aa1ad-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 20:32:23 UTC
Permalink
Rich/W7EET,

If you are referring to soundmodem and xastir, they certainly are in the
Fedora 20 repository, as both i686 and x86_64. Although it seems to
contain development files only for x86_64 development.


I run Fedora 20 and found the package using Yumex to search for it.
Perhaps you need to update the fedora-x86-64 repository.

The project at baycom.org has been defunct since 2006, but the website
has been periodically updated to alert the public to this fact.

If you are not referring to these two packages, then "Never Mind".
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
That is great except I use Fedora 20. I tried to download the Fedora
repositories and the software is no longer available or out dated. So
I had tried to access other types and it would not let me download the
software.
Now what? Am I to do?
I do not like windows.
Rich/W7EET
On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:45 PM, "Remi Chateauneu
https://packages.debian.org/stable/hamradio/soundmodem
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man8/soundmodem.8.html
http://www.george-smart.co.uk/wiki/AX25_Soundmodem
"Soundmodem is a Multiplatform Soundcard Packet Radio Modem written by
Thomas Sailer, HB9JNX/AE4WA. The software allows a standard PC
sound-card to be used as a packet radio "modem" with all processing
done on the main computer CPU.
On this page I will describe how to get the basic network interface
working and how that can be used with XASTIR, a amateur radio based
digital communication system for real-time exchange of digital
information to users on the APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System)
network, 144.8000 MHz in Europe. I also extended the settings to
experiment with TCP/IP over AX25, for the technical exercise. These
TCP/IP experiments are outside the scope of the basic sound modem and
may (in the future) make another article of their own!"
Honestly this is an excellent software, which could run on slow
machines ten years ago, with less than 3% CPU ...
Remi
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I bought a 100 dollar used IBM computer with win 7 on it . Of
course, I will be changing it to Linux Fedora 20. All I need now is
the packet software to download onto the linux. I am looking at
Alinco with tnc .
ALINCO DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
image
ALINCO
DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
ALINCO
DR-135TPMKIII | 2M MOBILE WITH TNC BUILTIN
View on
www.hamradio.com
Preview by
Yahoo
I will be marrying these two together and setup the alinco at
145.05. It would be nice if I could set it up with a mail box also.
So I could recieve msg's stored just like an email except it will be
for hamradio only and none commerical.
Rich/W7EET
KPC3+ tnc use gtkTerm as your terminal software.
You can't get much more simple than that.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 01:47:40PM -0700, Richard Dowty
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer
using for
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use
with linux
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
--
Larry Levesque
KA1VGM
www.digitalhamradio.org
--
73 From Ernie D

AA1AD | CN87ug



------------------------------------
Posted by: Ernest Wagner <aa1ad-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
kt4wo67 kt4wo67-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 12:34:22 UTC
Permalink
RE: "Soundmodem is what you need:"



Direwolf works better.....I have done many A/B/C tests with it and
others(KAM,,,etc)

Direwolf(Win and Linux) and UZ7HO "Soundmodem"(Windows) are the two best
as far as decode.

Trip - KT4WO




------------------------------------
Posted by: kt4wo67 <kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
Remi Chateauneu rchateauneu-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 16:00:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
RE: "Soundmodem is what you need:"
Direwolf works better.....I have done many A/B/C tests with it and
others(KAM,,,etc)
How does it control the PTT ? Something similar to Hamlib ?
Post by kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Direwolf(Win and Linux) and UZ7HO "Soundmodem"(Windows) are the two best
as far as decode.
Trip - KT4WO
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 17:56:55 UTC
Permalink
I had trouble locating the website
Direwolf.
Rich/W7EET



On Sunday, June 22, 2014 9:00 AM, "Remi Chateauneu rchateauneu-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
Le 22.06.2014 13:34, kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] a écrit :
 
Post by kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
RE: "Soundmodem is what you need:"
Direwolf works better.....I have done many A/B/C tests
with it and
Post by kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
others(KAM,,,etc)
How does it control the PTT ? Something similar to Hamlib ?


Direwolf(Win and Linux) and UZ7HO "Soundmodem"(Windows) are the two best
Post by kt4wo67 kt4wo67-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
as far as decode.
Trip - KT4WO
'D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN' kb3mun-xTObOlNNrnFmISeLE6Wk8g@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 18:04:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I had trouble locating the website
Direwolf.
http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/site/


73 de Daniel KB3MUN




------------------------------------
Posted by: "D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN" <kb3mun-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
Charles Brabham n5pvl-eeV24iX8Xvtg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 18:52:44 UTC
Permalink
I've tried Direwolf and as soon as the program runs, the PTT comes on
and locks that way. Have tried a number of different configuration
options but so far, no good.

My interface works fine with UZ7HO, BPQ32, Mixw and FLDIGI. - But not
with Direwolf. Dunno why.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by 'D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN' kb3mun-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I had trouble locating the website
Direwolf.
http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/site/
73 de Daniel KB3MUN
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 20:30:07 UTC
Permalink
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET



On Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:52 AM, "Charles Brabham n5pvl-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 
I've tried Direwolf and as soon as the program runs, the PTT comes on and locks that way. Have tried a number of different configuration options but so far, no good.

My interface works fine with UZ7HO, BPQ32, Mixw and FLDIGI. - But
not with Direwolf. Dunno why.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL


On 6/22/2014 1:04 PM, 'D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN' kb3mun-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:

 
Post by 'D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN' kb3mun-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I had trouble locating the website
Direwolf.
http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/site/
73 de Daniel KB3MUN
Remi Chateauneu rchateauneu-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-23 23:28:15 UTC
Permalink
Maybe we could adapt Direwolf to make it work with Hamlib for
controlling the PTT, optionnaly. I have done with soundmodem, and it
worked easily. Can do it a second time. Do we ask Direwolf their advice
to developers ?
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
I've tried Direwolf and as soon as the program runs, the PTT comes on
and locks that way. Have tried a number of different configuration
options but so far, no good.
My interface works fine with UZ7HO, BPQ32, Mixw and FLDIGI. - But not
with Direwolf. Dunno why.
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
Post by 'D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN' kb3mun-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I had trouble locating the website
Direwolf.
http://home.comcast.net/~wb2osz/site/
<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ewb2osz/site/>
73 de Daniel KB3MUN
David Ranch linuxham-fld-U76wwbNhhF3R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-07 15:53:05 UTC
Permalink
Hello Rich,

Sorry for the delay, was out on vacation. Check out
http://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=packet&ordpat=title but much of this
software will want to use the AX.25 stack in Linux and *not* the stack
in the TNC (KISS mode). You previously mentioned wanting to use
Alinco's built-in TNC but I bet bet you that it's not going to be an
optimal TNC. Poor signals won't get decoded, weak signals will have
lots of re-transmits, etc. A KPC3+ is a fine solution though expensive
for a TNC running in KISS mode. You might consider looking at using a
soundcard based software TNC which will give you much better
performance. I personally recommend Direwolf but there are many
multi-platform ones to choose from now:

http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#5.softtnc

Please note that Soundmodem from Thomas Sailer has gone without
maintenance for yearts now and has been proven to have poor decodes.
See Direwolf's UserGuide, page 55 to show comparisons of decodes across
various TNCs, Soundmodem, etc. Btw, you don't need an expensive sound
card to be successful. There are a few <$10 USB soundmodems that work
well with Direwolf but read the User Guide for some specific device
recommendations. Units like the Signalink give you isolation and free
you from figuring out a PTT solution but it's not entirely required for
packet work.

Btw, for HAM radio Linux distributions, Debian / Ubuntu / Mint are
probably the simplest to get going and have a broad array of software to
install. Unfortunately, a lot of the HAM packages aren't updated often
enough. I personally recommend you to compile your own. It's not too
hard to do and I've documented how to do that in the above URL using
RPMs (on Centos and Fedora). I'd be happy to help if you get stuck.

--David
KI6ZHD
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using
for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use
with linux software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-07 16:45:32 UTC
Permalink
One of my weak area's is computers. I am not a sharp cookie in this field. I noticed packet is coming back. I have a wish; write a separate software program from Fldigi for marring packet radio to one computer for 100% use of packet radio for communication. The reason I like KPC-3 is the mail box capability. Someone could leave me a message in my mail box. Signal link is a nice piece of hardware but it does not have mail box unless it could be written in the software.
One thing I hate is APRS and GPS tracking system. This one thing I would not like in packet radio. Just another way to invade privicy.
Rich/W7EET



On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:53 AM, "David Ranch linuxham-fld-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 

Hello Rich,

Sorry for the delay, was out on vacation.  Check out http://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=packet&ordpat=title but much of this software will want to use the AX.25 stack in Linux and *not* the stack in the TNC (KISS mode).  You previously mentioned wanting to use Alinco's built-in TNC but I bet bet you that it's not going to be an optimal TNC.  Poor signals won't get decoded, weak signals will have lots of re-transmits, etc.  A KPC3+ is a fine solution though expensive for a TNC running in KISS mode.  You might consider looking at using a soundcard based software TNC which will give you much better performance.  I personally recommend Direwolf but there are many multi-platform ones to choose from now:

   http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#5.softtnc

Please note that Soundmodem from Thomas Sailer has gone without
maintenance for yearts now and has been proven to have poor
decodes.  See Direwolf's UserGuide, page 55 to show comparisons of
decodes across various TNCs, Soundmodem, etc.  Btw, you don't need
an expensive sound card to be successful.  There are a few <$10
USB soundmodems that work well with Direwolf but read the User Guide
for some specific device recommendations.  Units like the Signalink
give you isolation and free you from figuring out a PTT solution but
it's not entirely required for packet work.

Btw, for HAM radio Linux distributions, Debian / Ubuntu / Mint are
probably the simplest to get going and have a broad array of
software to install.  Unfortunately, a lot of the HAM packages
aren't updated often enough.  I personally recommend you to compile
your own.  It's not too hard to do and I've documented how to do
that in the above URL using RPMs (on Centos and Fedora).  I'd be
happy to help if you get stuck.

--David
KI6ZHD



Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux software?
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
David Ranch linuxham-fld-U76wwbNhhF3R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-08 00:46:58 UTC
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Hey Rich,

Linux packet software can absolutely act like a simple packet mailbox
but do much much more. Linpac for Linux can do this though it only
works on accepting email for the local user (remote users can't check
for messages for them on your machine). I have that on the to-do list
to get fixed. Next, there are other Linux packet programs that support
PBBS like functionality but leverage a small local mail server on your
computer (postfix, qmail, sendmail, etc) which allows you to send
messages to the internet, etc. Then there are many BBS programs that
you could install (JNOS, FBB, etc) that do a *lot more* than just simple
personal mailboxes. Yes, the PBBS feature in a KPC3+ is very nice and
all it requires is a radio and the TNC but you still need a computer to
read it.

If you're willing to leave the computer running 24/7 too, you open
yourself to a LOT of powerful options. It doesn't have to be a powerful
computer btw, for example, here is a ready-to-go Raspberry Pi SD card
image with FBB and many other packet programs all ready to go. Do the
various edits for your callsign and you're ready to go!

http://f6bvp.org/AX25_BBS_Node_RaspBerry_Pi_install.html

--David
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
One of my weak area's is computers. I am not a sharp cookie in this
field. I noticed packet is coming back. I have a wish; write a
separate software program from Fldigi for marring packet radio to one
computer for 100% use of packet radio for communication. The reason I
like KPC-3 is the mail box capability. Someone could leave me a
message in my mail box. Signal link is a nice piece of hardware but it
does not have mail box unless it could be written in the software.
One thing I hate is APRS and GPS tracking system. This one thing I
would not like in packet radio. Just another way to invade privicy.
Rich/W7EET
Hello Rich,
Sorry for the delay, was out on vacation. Check out
http://radio.linux.org.au/?sectpat=packet&ordpat=title but much of
this software will want to use the AX.25 stack in Linux and *not* the
stack in the TNC (KISS mode). You previously mentioned wanting to use
Alinco's built-in TNC but I bet bet you that it's not going to be an
optimal TNC. Poor signals won't get decoded, weak signals will have
lots of re-transmits, etc. A KPC3+ is a fine solution though
expensive for a TNC running in KISS mode. You might consider looking
at using a soundcard based software TNC which will give you much
better performance. I personally recommend Direwolf but there are
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#5.softtnc
Please note that Soundmodem from Thomas Sailer has gone without
maintenance for yearts now and has been proven to have poor decodes.
See Direwolf's UserGuide, page 55 to show comparisons of decodes
across various TNCs, Soundmodem, etc. Btw, you don't need an
expensive sound card to be successful. There are a few <$10 USB
soundmodems that work well with Direwolf but read the User Guide for
some specific device recommendations. Units like the Signalink give
you isolation and free you from figuring out a PTT solution but it's
not entirely required for packet work.
Btw, for HAM radio Linux distributions, Debian / Ubuntu / Mint are
probably the simplest to get going and have a broad array of software
to install. Unfortunately, a lot of the HAM packages aren't updated
often enough. I personally recommend you to compile your own. It's
not too hard to do and I've documented how to do that in the above URL
using RPMs (on Centos and Fedora). I'd be happy to help if you get stuck.
--David
KI6ZHD
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer
using for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to
use with linux software?
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
Richard Dowty w7eet-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-07-08 03:22:07 UTC
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Thanks for the reply David. I want to keep the computer free from the internet and run the computer 24/7 with the packet radio. what you are describing to me : ::: it interest me very much. being a Fedora 20 user, it limits me from software except the repository. If you could?? hint??? upload it to Fedora 20 repository and that would be nice so I could download the program and use it.
Rich/W7EET



On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:47 PM, "David Ranch linuxham-fld-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:



 

Hey Rich,

Linux packet software can absolutely act like a simple packet
mailbox but do much much more.  Linpac for Linux can do this though
it only works on accepting email for the local user (remote users
can't check for messages for them on your machine).  I have that on
the to-do list to get fixed.  Next, there are other Linux packet
programs that support PBBS like functionality but leverage a small
local mail server on your computer (postfix, qmail, sendmail, etc)
which allows you to send messages to the internet, etc.  Then there
are many BBS programs that you could install (JNOS, FBB, etc) that
do a *lot more* than just simple personal mailboxes.  Yes, the PBBS
feature in a KPC3+ is very nice and all it requires is a radio and
the TNC but you still need a computer to read it. 

If you're willing to leave the computer running 24/7 too, you open
yourself to a LOT of powerful options.  It doesn't have to be a
powerful computer btw, for example, here is a ready-to-go Raspberry
Pi SD card image with FBB and many other packet programs all ready
to go.  Do the various edits for your callsign and you're ready to
go!

   http://f6bvp.org/AX25_BBS_Node_RaspBerry_Pi_install.html

--David




One of my weak area's is computers. I am not a sharp cookie in this field. I noticed packet is coming back. I have a wish; write a separate software program from Fldigi for marring packet radio to one computer for 100% use of packet radio for communication. The reason I like KPC-3 is the mail box capability. Someone could leave me a message in my mail box. Signal link is a nice piece of hardware but it does not have mail box unless it could be written in the software.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
One thing I hate is APRS and GPS tracking system. This one thing I would not like in packet radio. Just another way to invade privicy.
Rich/W7EET
 
Hello Rich,
Sorry for the delay, was out on vacation. 
   http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#5.softtnc
Please note that Soundmodem from Thomas
Sailer has gone without maintenance for
yearts now and has been proven to have poor
decodes.  See Direwolf's UserGuide, page 55
to show comparisons of decodes across
various TNCs, Soundmodem, etc.  Btw, you
don't need an expensive sound card to be
successful.  There are a few <$10 USB
soundmodems that work well with Direwolf but
read the User Guide for some specific device
recommendations.  Units like the Signalink
give you isolation and free you from
figuring out a PTT solution but it's not
entirely required for packet work.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Btw, for HAM radio Linux distributions,
Debian / Ubuntu / Mint are probably the
simplest to get going and have a broad array
of software to install.  Unfortunately, a
lot of the HAM packages aren't updated often
enough.  I personally recommend you to
compile your own.  It's not too hard to do
and I've documented how to do that in the
above URL using RPMs (on Centos and
Fedora).  I'd be happy to help if you get
stuck.
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
--David
KI6ZHD
Is there a separate software(written in linux) just for computer using for Packet radio? No GPS , No APRS. What would be a nice tnc to use with linux software?
Post by Richard Dowty w7eet-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Thank you,
Rich/W7EET
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