Stranger in a Strange Land

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

I was given a PowerMac G5 running MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
So of course I installed fldigi and flrig and friends, and learned
how to install the usb driver to make the IC-7200 play with them.
But I'm going crazy trying to find the right mouse button. So
in flrig, for instance, how do I click on the frequency to get it
to go down?

Jim I'd rather be using Linux W6JVE

[Dave Wright [e-mail] [linuxham]]

You could just plug in a two-button mouse, or you could also install Linux
on it if you'd "rather be using Linux". The G5's ran Linux pretty well,
although I don't know how they'd handle the newest distros (I'd imagine it
would be just fine!). However,
http://julipedia.meroh.net/2013/07/putting-powermac-g5-to-good-use.html

73

Dave
K3DCW

Dave
K3DCW

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I was given a PowerMac G5 running MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
So of course I installed fldigi and flrig and friends, and learned
how to install the usb driver to make the IC-7200 play with them.
But I'm going crazy trying to find the right mouse button. So
in flrig, for instance, how do I click on the frequency to get it
to go down?
Jim I'd rather be using Linux W6JVE

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

I have plenty of Linux machines. Trying to learn how to use flxxx software on a Mac
so as to be able to help others who run Macs.

[rudy62k-/[e-mail] [linuxham]]

IIRC, ctrl+click will give a mouse click.

And, as the OP said, yo can always install Linux, although I'm not sure how up to date the distro would be.

[Cliff Scott [e-mail] [linuxham]]

Control - click normally works for right click on a Mac, but I seem to recall that Fldigi doesn’t recognize that combo as right click.

Cliff Scott
AE5ZA

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I was given a PowerMac G5 running MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
So of course I installed fldigi and flrig and friends, and learned
how to install the usb driver to make the IC-7200 play with them.
But I'm going crazy trying to find the right mouse button. So
in flrig, for instance, how do I click on the frequency to get it
to go down?
Jim I'd rather be using Linux W6JVE

[Dave Wright [e-mail] [linuxham]]

Cliff,

That’s correct on both counts
ctrl-click normally, but not with Fldigi.

--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

“Real radio bounces off the sky"

Control - click normally works for right click on a Mac, but I seem to recall that Fldigi doesn’t recognize that combo as right click.
Cliff Scott
AE5ZA

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I was given a PowerMac G5 running MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
So of course I installed fldigi and flrig and friends, and learned
how to install the usb driver to make the IC-7200 play with them.
But I'm going crazy trying to find the right mouse button. So
in flrig, for instance, how do I click on the frequency to get it
to go down?
Jim I'd rather be using Linux W6JVE

[Michael Coslo [e-mail] [linuxham]]

But really - any 2 button USB mouse will work. Big Lot's has them for a
few dollars if money is an issue. I'm a little surprised that a G5 machine
would have a SBM.

-73 Mike N3LI -

Post by Cliff Scott ae5zaham-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Control - click normally works for right click on a Mac, but I seem to
recall that Fldigi doesn’t recognize that combo as right click.
Cliff Scott
AE5ZA
I was given a PowerMac G5 running MacOS 10.5 Leopard.
So of course I installed fldigi and flrig and friends, and learned
how to install the usb driver to make the IC-7200 play with them.
But I'm going crazy trying to find the right mouse button. So
in flrig, for instance, how do I click on the frequency to get it
to go down?
Jim I'd rather be using Linux W6JVE

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

The single button mouse seems to be the way Apple does things. I have plenty of 3 button mice,
but trying to learn to do things the Apple way. Isn't anybody out there running fldigi and friends
on a Mac? who can answer the question.

[Dave Wright [e-mail] [linuxham]]

There are a lot of us that run Fldigi on Mac, including me; but we're also
smart enough to plug in a multi-button mouse (mine is a 6-button gaming
mouse).

The single button mouse is hasn't been used by Apple in a close to a decade
or more, although they were still made and still used by those that had
gotten used to them. As someone said yesterday, I'm surprised that you have
a single-button mouse with a G5.

The single-button mouse may have been "the Apple way", but those days are
long gone. Plug in a 3-button mouse and save yourself the headaches.





Dave
K3DCW

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
The single button mouse seems to be the way Apple does things. I have
plenty of 3 button mice,
but trying to learn to do things the Apple way. Isn't anybody out there
running fldigi and friends
on a Mac? who can answer the question.

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

OK, thanks - I just assumed the single-button mouse was still the "Apple Way"
and that a multi-button mouse wouldn't even work. I'll try a multi-button mouse.

[Original Woodchuck [e-mail] [linuxham]]

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
OK, thanks - I just assumed the single-button mouse was still the "Apple Way"
and that a multi-button mouse wouldn't even work. I'll try a multi-button mouse.

The current mac OS is a derivative of FreeBSD, and although I am told that
X-Window is not used, still, the X heritage is "three buttons". If code
written for generic *n*x is to be feasible under the mac's OS, without
possibly a lot of rewriting, it would behoove that OS to accommodate
three buttons. (And to emulate 3-buttons with a MS two button mouse.
For the record: MS was in the ancient X-10 Consortium, where 3-buttons
was first specified, but later (years later) when it wrote its goofy
Windoze, went to two. Presumably this was to be "special and unique"
(like their sly choice of "\" for a file path separator). One-button for
the Apples is independent, coming from the original Xerox PARC ideas.)

Dave AB3NR


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[Joel Black [e-mail] [linuxham]]

Well, I use a Mac. I also use a Logitech MX518 mouse. I *hate* the Apple
mouse. I do, however, have a trackpad I bought when I bought my iMac. I
have no problems using the "two-finger click" for a "right click" with
the trackpad.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
The single button mouse seems to be the way Apple does things. I have
plenty of 3 button mice,
but trying to learn to do things the Apple way. Isn't anybody out
there running fldigi and friends
on a Mac? who can answer the question.

[Michael Coslo [e-mail] [linuxham]]

I’m running fldigi on a Mac, and I’ve been using and supporting Macs for years as in Mac toaster days. They haven’t used single buttons (only) for a long long time - like since System 6.7.

I switched to dual buttons with my first PowerPC, and you really, really need a two button mouse. As I said, it is really surprising your G5 has a single button mouse. It is not the mouse it came with. Single button mouses are to the mac what 286’s are to the PC world.

I have fldigi on my i5 iMac. Everything runs perfectly. Get a dual button mouse. It is the mac way for a long time now. This is really as good advice as you are going to get.

- 73 Mike N3LI -

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
The single button mouse seems to be the way Apple does things. I have plenty of 3 button mice,
but trying to learn to do things the Apple way. Isn't anybody out there running fldigi and friendson a Mac? who can answer the question.

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[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

Thanks. I guess the single-button mouse originally came with a G3 - I had just assumed that
so long as Steve Jobs lived Apple would never use other than a single-button mouse. Clearly
I'm iggorant about modern Apple systems (if the G5 can be called modern).

[Michael Coslo [e-mail] [linuxham]]

The G5 was a pretty competent machine, I used a couple dual processor versions to do video work in the oughts.

The reason Apple went to the intel chip was not so much performance, but the size of the processors. Open up a G5 PowerMac, and the processor takes up huge amounts of real estate. Plus there is a reason they had so many fans inside the case. When I was rendering 3D, the thing was like a jet taking off.

In the end, IBM was never able to shrink the G5 small enough for laptops, so Apple went to Intel, and a whole new era of Unixlike computing ensued.

It should be very serviceable for you.

- 73 Mike N3LI -

Post by jhhaynes-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I'm iggorant about modern Apple systems (if the G5 can be called modern).

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Posted by: Michael Coslo <mjcn3li-***@public.gmane.org>

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

Maybe here is a place to ask a Mac mouse/trackpad question. I am running Fldigi on a MacBook Pro, generally without difficulty. But I do have a problem when transmitting.

I type something in the blue zone, then the KN|| macro. Then I select the text, right click on the trackpad, and select transmit. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it just sits there.

If it's just sitting there, and I click in the text, then suddenly it starts transmitting--walking the text across the screen changing color--up to the point where I clicked. Then if I click again, it selects all the text and continues transmitting.

???

Doug, W0UHU.

[Ed [e-mail] [linuxham]]

On 18 Jul 2014 07:32:39 -0700

Post by douglas_hagerman-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Maybe here is a place to ask a Mac mouse/trackpad question. I am
running Fldigi on a MacBook Pro, generally without difficulty. But I
do have a problem when transmitting.
I type something in the blue zone, then the KN|| macro. Then I select
the text, right click on the trackpad, and select transmit. Sometimes
it works. Sometimes it just sits there.
If it's just sitting there, and I click in the text, then suddenly it
starts transmitting--walking the text across the screen changing
color--up to the point where I clicked. Then if I click again, it
selects all the text and continues transmitting.
???
Doug, W0UHU.

The label for KN is "KN||", denoting that only <RX> is present in the
macro text.


http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/keyboard_operation_page.html


Have you tried using the T/R button ? or Ctrl-t Ctrl-r. I don't think
this just related to a Mac, but would happen with any OS. Try typing in
your text, then the macro and click the T/R button. Does that fix it ?

Ed W3NR



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[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

I thought if you selected the text, right clicked, and selected transmit, it was supposed to send the selected text... ???

Doug, W0UHU.

[Ed [e-mail] [linuxham]]

On 18 Jul 2014 10:05:31 -0700

Post by douglas_hagerman-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I thought if you selected the text, right clicked, and selected
transmit, it was supposed to send the selected text... ???
Doug, W0UHU.

Do you mean you are hi-lighting the text ? Don't forget that fldigi
will only send up to the cursor.

Ed


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[Michael Coslo [e-mail] [linuxham]]

Post by douglas_hagerman-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I thought if you selected the text, right clicked, and selected transmit, it was supposed to send the selected text... ???

Weoh, I’m a little confused here.

Try this. click on the transmit button, and start typing. It should transmit what all you type., and stay transmitting until you hit the RX button.

Next, right click on say, the CQ macro button. It shouls read something like:

<TX> CQ CQ CQ de <MYCALL> <MYCALL>

a few times, then end with a

pse k
<RX>

Close that window, then left click on that macro.

It should start transmitting, then run the macro, then go back to receive.

It sounds sort of like you are typing in the transmit window, kind of an alternative macro, then trying to transmit that.

Probably best to use the macros - or even copy and paste the text you want, then hit the TX button without highlighting anything.

-73 Mike N3LI -



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[Ed [e-mail] [linuxham]]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 00:39:26 -0400

Post by Michael Coslo mjcn3li-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]

Post by douglas_hagerman-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I thought if you selected the text, right clicked, and selected
transmit, it was supposed to send the selected text... ???

Weoh, I’m a little confused here.
Try this. click on the transmit button, and start typing. It should
transmit what all you type., and stay transmitting until you hit the
RX button.
Next, right click on say, the CQ macro button. It shouls read
<TX> CQ CQ CQ de <MYCALL> <MYCALL>
a few times, then end with a
pse k
<RX>
Close that window, then left click on that macro.
It should start transmitting, then run the macro, then go back to receive.
It sounds sort of like you are typing in the transmit window, kind of
an alternative macro, then trying to transmit that.
Probably best to use the macros - or even copy and paste the text you
want, then hit the TX button without highlighting anything.
-73 Mike N3LI -

Some reading material::

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/keyboard_operation_page.html

Ed W3NR




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[Robert Stiles kk5vd-/[e-mail] [linuxham]]

Make sure the text cursor is at the end of the text (in the blue area) before hitting the transmit button (or right click transmit).  Fldigi will only transmit up to the current cursor position.  If the cursor position is a the front of the text to be transmuted it will not proceed.

Robert


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To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:32 AM
Subject: [linuxham] Re: Stranger in a Strange Land



 
Maybe here is a place to ask a Mac mouse/trackpad question. I am running Fldigi on a MacBook Pro, generally without difficulty. But I do have a problem when transmitting.

I type something in the blue zone, then the KN|| macro. Then I select the text, right click on the trackpad, and select transmit. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it just sits there.

If it's just sitting there, and I click in the text, then suddenly it starts transmitting--walking the text across the screen changing color--up to the point where I clicked. Then if I click again, it selects all the text and continues transmitting.

???

Doug, W0UHU.

[mitchwinkle-/[e-mail] [linuxham]]

I will +1 the "install Linux on the G5". They run it quite well.

[[e-mail] [linuxham]]

That's the way it seems to me - ctrl-click doesn't do right click in fldigi.