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TQSL question
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k8wdx-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 19:45:31 UTC
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Hi group, installed Mint 17 LTS Cinn, question I have is when I open tqsl to create a home location the program just closes, the cert is loaded, but I dont see the blue cert icon in the menu, just the Tqsl, any ideas?? everything else seems to be working fine..Tom K8WDX
Ron Wellsted ron-lU1t+siEIZ2tmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 20:17:56 UTC
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On 22/06/14 20:45, k8wdx-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
>
> Hi group, installed Mint 17 LTS Cinn, question I have is when I
> open tqsl to create a home location the program just closes, the
> cert is loaded, but I dont see the blue cert icon in the menu, just
> the Tqsl, any ideas?? everything else seems to be working fine..Tom
> K8WDX
>

First try opening a console then run tqsl. This may give you more
information about why the program is failing.



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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-06-22 21:14:50 UTC
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On 22 Jun 2014 12:45:31 -0700
"k8wdx-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hi group, installed Mint 17 LTS Cinn, question I have is when I open
> tqsl to create a home location the program just closes, the cert is
> loaded, but I dont see the blue cert icon in the menu, just the Tqsl,
> any ideas?? everything else seems to be working fine..Tom K8WDX
>

Works perfectly here....mint17 mate.

But, I do backup all my important files to a USB stick everyday at 8 in
the morning and that includes .tqsl. Eliminates a lot of problems.

Ed W3NR


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k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 02:44:49 UTC
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I'm seeing a similar problem. I start TQSL and click on the "Create a new Station Location" button and it just crashes and closes. No error message, no warning. It won't let me us my new certificate until I update the station location, so basically, it isn't working.

I'm using version 2.0.2 which came from a repository. I see there is a version 2.0.3, so I figured, okay, I can build it.


I have not been able to tqsl-2.0.3.tgz and make it into something Debian that I can install.


Being a serious newbie, what would be the proper steps to take to use the tgz file and make it into something that I can use in LinuxMint 17. I've tried and failed too many times already.


Thanks


Dennis


PS: can anyone recommend a good book for the basics of using Linux for someone that knows nothing? I've read two so far, but both talked about system management, nothing about building kits that work.
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 02:52:57 UTC
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Are you on LinuxMint or Debian?

If LM17, then try this:

Try this:

- Go to the command line/terminal.
- Type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-hams-updates/ppa
-
​ Type: sudo apt-get update
- Type: sudo apt-get install trustedQSL

See if that gets you up and running.

There is a lot of great software in this repository beyond TQSL. Check out
the full list at
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-updates/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

It makes installing and updating a breeze.

73

Dave


Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:44 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> I'm seeing a similar problem. I start TQSL and click on the "Create a new
> Station Location" button and it just crashes and closes. No error message,
> no warning. It won't let me us my new certificate until I update the
> station location, so basically, it isn't working.
>
> I'm using version 2.0.2 which came from a repository. I see there is a
> version 2.0.3, so I figured, okay, I can build it.
>
> I have not been able to tqsl-2.0.3.tgz and make it into something Debian
> that I can install.
>
> Being a serious newbie, what would be the proper steps to take to use the
> tgz file and make it into something that I can use in LinuxMint 17. I've
> tried and failed too many times already.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dennis
>
> PS: can anyone recommend a good book for the basics of using Linux for
> someone that knows nothing? I've read two so far, but both talked about
> system management, nothing about building kits that work.
>
>
>
>
k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 04:04:00 UTC
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Thanks Dave. Unfortunately, I think the repository has the same version that I have currently installed, 2.0.2

The terminal:
$ sudo apt-get install trustedQSL
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
trustedqsl is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63 not upgraded.


This is why I wanted to figure out how to actually build it on my LM 17 system.


73'


Dennis K1YPP
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 04:24:22 UTC
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You could always remove your non-working version and reinstall from the repository. It **MAY** fix something.

Dave

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Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"


On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 0:04, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:

>
> Thanks Dave. Unfortunately, I think the repository has the same version that I have currently installed, 2.0.2
>
> The terminal:
> $ sudo apt-get install trustedQSL
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> trustedqsl is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63 not upgraded.
>
> This is why I wanted to figure out how to actually build it on my LM 17 system.
>
> 73'
>
> Dennis K1YPP
>
>
Steve K0STK k0stk-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 13:37:50 UTC
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"k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:

>Thanks Dave. Unfortunately, I think the repository has the same version
>that I have currently installed, 2.0.2
>
>The terminal:
>
>$ sudo apt-get install trustedQSL
>Reading package lists... Done
>Building dependency tree
>Reading state information... Done
>trustedqsl is already the newest version.
>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 63 not upgraded.
>
>This is why I wanted to figure out how to actually build it on my LM 17
>system.

tqsl 2.0.3 is available in Debian Testing (aka "Jessie").

You could try downloading the source files from
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/trustedqsl. You'll need the the
*.dsc, *.orig.tar.gz, and *.debian.tar.xz files listed in the right hand
column.

And then building a local package following the instructions at
https://www.debian-administration.org/article/20/Rebuilding_Debian_packages
except for the source download instructions. In your case what you'll
want to do is:

1. Put the 3 source files in a build directory

2. Unpack the source with:
dpkg-source -x *.dsc

You should be able to follow the rest of the instructions.

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73, Steve K0STK // k0stk-***@public.gmane.org



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k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 01:58:43 UTC
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Thanks Steve:

Just to prove how much of a newbie I am, I can't figure out how to get those files to download. If I "left click" on them, the open up as a web text file. If I "right click," I get a menu, but nothing that offers to download.


I tried, using a terminal screen, but couldn't figure out the proper address to use to use FTP the files. Then I tried to use a GUI, FTPcube http://ftpcube.sourceforge.net/download.html, but failed to get that to install as well. It says on the Sourceforge page: "To install FtpCube, simply run :
python setup.py install" I tried that and it bombed, I figured out that "Python" is installed, by default, in LinuxMint 17, but couldn't figure out how to make that work either. It says, "simply run," but I would argue that point. I could start Python and got the >>> prompt, but failed badly.


I have a copy of TQSL-2.0.3 on the system, but just can't figure out how to build it. I feel like such a babe in the wood, especially after working on UNIX systems for at least 20 years. How frustrating.


Thanks for trying anyway. I guess I'll just have to wait for it to show up in a distribution, or find a book that explains how to properly do these things.


K1YPP
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 02:03:33 UTC
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Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit LM17?

Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Steve:
>
> Just to prove how much of a newbie I am, I can't figure out how to get
> those files to download. If I "left click" on them, the open up as a web
> text file. If I "right click," I get a menu, but nothing that offers to
> download.
>
> I tried, using a terminal screen, but couldn't figure out the proper
> address to use to use FTP the files. Then I tried to use a GUI, FTPcube
> <http://ftpcube.sourceforge.net/download.html>, but failed to get that to
> install as well. It says on the Sourceforge page: "To install FtpCube,
> simply run :
> python setup.py install"
> I tried that and it bombed, I figured out that "Python" is installed, by
> default, in LinuxMint 17, but couldn't figure out how to make that work
> either. It says, "simply run," but I would argue that point. I could start
> Python and got the >>> prompt, but failed badly.
>
> I have a copy of TQSL-2.0.3 on the system, but just can't figure out how
> to build it. I feel like such a babe in the wood, especially after working
> on UNIX systems for at least 20 years. How frustrating.
>
> Thanks for trying anyway. I guess I'll just have to wait for it to show up
> in a distribution, or find a book that explains how to properly do these
> things.
>
> K1YPP
>
>
>
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 02:10:15 UTC
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On 10/01/2014 09:58 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> Thanks Steve:
>
> Just to prove how much of a newbie I am, I can't figure out how to
> get those files to download. If I "left click" on them, the open up
> as a web text file. If I "right click," I get a menu, but nothing
> that offers to download.
>
>
> I tried, using a terminal screen, but couldn't figure out the proper
> address to use to use FTP the files. Then I tried to use a GUI,
> FTPcube http://ftpcube.sourceforge.net/download.html, but failed to
> get that to install as well. It says on the Sourceforge page: "To
> install FtpCube, simply run : python setup.py install" I tried that
> and it bombed, I figured out that "Python" is installed, by default,
> in LinuxMint 17, but couldn't figure out how to make that work
> either. It says, "simply run," but I would argue that point. I could
> start Python and got the >>> prompt, but failed badly.
>
>
> I have a copy of TQSL-2.0.3 on the system, but just can't figure out
> how to build it. I feel like such a babe in the wood, especially
> after working on UNIX systems for at least 20 years. How
> frustrating.
>
>
> Thanks for trying anyway. I guess I'll just have to wait for it to
> show up in a distribution, or find a book that explains how to
> properly do these things.
>
>
> K1YPP
>

It will not install on Mint17, you need a newer version of libc6, and
upgrading that opens a whole new can of worms.

Ed W3NR




















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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 02:12:06 UTC
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On 10/01/2014 09:58 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> Thanks Steve:
>
> Just to prove how much of a newbie I am, I can't figure out how to
> get those files to download. If I "left click" on them, the open up
> as a web text file. If I "right click," I get a menu, but nothing
> that offers to download.

"Save file as" is what you want.


Ed W3NR


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Dennis Blanchard k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 02:32:38 UTC
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I'm sorry Ed, I totally blew it. When I right-clicked my skipped right over "save link as..." I've been bitten by this before. Chrome doesn't offer it as "save file as," and my mind skips right over saving a link, I don't want to save a link, I want to save a file.

Dumb me! I think I'm just too exhausted, I've been working on another project and spent about 120 hours on it, just last week and it has taken it's toll. Guess I should cut back a little, not good when trying to learn something.

Anyway, I think you indicated in another reply that it won't work with Linux Mint anyway, is that correct?

I guess the bottom line is: How do I install the latest TQSL-2.0.3, that seems to be a real puzzle to me. Either that, or, what is wrong with 2.0.2 that it dies when one tries to add a new station location?

Thanks all.

Dennis, K1YPP

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From: "Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [linuxham] Re: TQSL question




On 10/01/2014 09:58 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> Thanks Steve:
>
> Just to prove how much of a newbie I am, I can't figure out how to
> get those files to download. If I "left click" on them, the open up
> as a web text file. If I "right click," I get a menu, but nothing
> that offers to download.

"Save file as" is what you want.

Ed W3NR
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 03:01:08 UTC
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On 10/01/2014 10:32 PM, Dennis Blanchard k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> I'm sorry Ed, I totally blew it. When I right-clicked my skipped
> right over "save link as..." I've been bitten by this before. Chrome
> doesn't offer it as "save file as," and my mind skips right over
> saving a link, I don't want to save a link, I want to save a file.

That will save the file. A little misleading at best.

> Anyway, I think you indicated in another reply that it won't work
> with Linux Mint anyway, is that correct?

No it will not. You have one library that is not current that it relies on.

I would suggest that you delete the .tqsl file and start fresh.

Ed W3NR



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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 02:15:12 UTC
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On 10/01/2014 09:58 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:

> I tried, using a terminal screen, but couldn't figure out the proper
> address to use to use FTP the files. Then I tried to use a GUI,
> FTPcube http://ftpcube.sourceforge.net/download.html, but failed to
> get that to install as well. It says on the Sourceforge page: "To
> install FtpCube, simply run : python setup.py install" I tried that
> and it bombed, I figured out that "Python" is installed, by default,
> in LinuxMint 17, but couldn't figure out how to make that work
> either. It says, "simply run," but I would argue that point. I could
> start Python and got the >>> prompt, but failed badly.

ftp is installed by default in mint17 or you could use gftp. Both are in
the repository.

Ed W3NR


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k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 03:22:51 UTC
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Hi Steve:

Am I doing things in the incorrect order here, or is something missing? I'm using the guidelines on the page you gave a link to: Rebuilding Debian packages.


Here is the terminal session ( I tried it using 2.0.3-1, same result):


***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ ls
flrig-1.3.16.tar.gz trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc
trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz


***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ sudo apt-get build-dep trustedqsl_2.0.3
[sudo] password for k1ypp:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for trustedqsl_2.0.3


***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ dpkg-source -x *.dsc
gpgv: Signature made Wed 03 Sep 2014 08:53:06 AM EDT using RSA key ID 38C9D903
gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on ./trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc
dpkg-source: info: extracting trustedqsl in trustedqsl-2.0.3
dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz
dpkg-source: info: applying 01-install-libtqsllib-so-in-usr-lib-trustedqsl.patch
dpkg-source: info: applying 02-wx3.0-compat.patch


***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ sudo apt-get build-dep trustedqsl_2.0.3
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for trustedqsl_2.0.3
Steve K0STK k0stk-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 10:42:24 UTC
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"k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:

>Am I doing things in the incorrect order here, or is something missing?
>I'm using the guidelines on the page you gave a link to: Rebuilding
>Debian packages.
>Here is the terminal session ( I tried it using 2.0.3-1, same result):
>
>***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ ls
>flrig-1.3.16.tar.gz trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc
>trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz
>***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ sudo apt-get build-dep
>trustedqsl_2.0.3
>[sudo] password for k1ypp:
>Reading package lists... Done
>Building dependency tree
>Reading state information... Done
>E: Unable to find a source package for trustedqsl_2.0.3

You don't use the version # in the build-dep command, just the package
name:

$ sudo apt-get build-dep trustedqsl

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k1ypp-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 18:02:21 UTC
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Thanks Steve:

That seemed to run, now the next command sequence has errors that I don't know what they mean, about a signature and public key:


***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ dpkg-source -x *.dsc
gpgv: Signature made Wed 03 Sep 2014 08:53:06 AM EDT using RSA key ID 38C9D903
gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on ./trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc
dpkg-source: info: extracting trustedqsl in trustedqsl-2.0.3
dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz
dpkg-source: info: applying 01-install-libtqsllib-so-in-usr-lib-trustedqsl.patch
dpkg-source: info: applying 02-wx3.0-compat.patch
***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ ls
flrig-1.3.16.tar.gz trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc
trustedqsl-2.0.3 trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz
trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz
Steve K0STK k0stk-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 19:52:45 UTC
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"k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:

>Thanks Steve:
>That seemed to run, now the next command sequence has errors that I
>don't know what they mean, about a signature and public key:
>
>***@k1ypp-Satellite-A45 ~/tarballs $ dpkg-source -x *.dsc
>gpgv: Signature made Wed 03 Sep 2014 08:53:06 AM EDT using RSA key ID
>38C9D903
>gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
>dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on
>./trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.dsc

The above means that dpkg could not verify the signature on the package
description file (*.dsc).

If you wish to verify the signature you'll need to at key 38C9D903 to
your keyring. You may do this with the following command:

$ gpg --recv-keys 38C9D903

Then rerun the unpacking process.

>dpkg-source: info: extracting trustedqsl in trustedqsl-2.0.3
>dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3.orig.tar.gz
>dpkg-source: info: unpacking trustedqsl_2.0.3-1.debian.tar.xz
>dpkg-source: info: applying
>01-install-libtqsllib-so-in-usr-lib-trustedqsl.patch
>dpkg-source: info: applying 02-wx3.0-compat.patch

The above means that the source was unpacked and prepared for the build
process.

You should now be able to:

$ cd trustedqsl-2.0.3 && sudo debuild -us -uc

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'Frank Dinger ,GM0CSZ' gm0csz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-06 13:05:18 UTC
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Indeed Dave , trustedqsl installed well using the ppa

tnx for ur advice

Frank , GM0CSZ in IO87AT (also KN6WH)

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
<linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Are you on LinuxMint or Debian?
>
> If LM17, then try this:
>
> Try this:
>
> - Go to the command line/terminal.
> - Type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-hams-updates/ppa
> -
> ​ Type: sudo apt-get update
> - Type: sudo apt-get install trustedQSL
>
> See if that gets you up and running.
>
> There is a lot of great software in this repository beyond TQSL. Check
> out the full list at
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-hams-updates/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>
> It makes installing and updating a breeze.
>
> 73
>
> Dave
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> Dave Wright
> K3DCW
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> www.machamradio.com
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> "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:44 PM, k1ypp-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
> linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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>> I'm seeing a similar problem. I start TQSL and click on the "Create a new
>> Station Location" button and it just crashes and closes. No error message,
>> no warning. It won't let me us my new certificate until I update the
>> station location, so basically, it isn't working.
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>> I'm using version 2.0.2 which came from a repository. I see there is a
>> version 2.0.3, so I figured, okay, I can build it.
>>
>> I have not been able to tqsl-2.0.3.tgz and make it into something Debian
>> that I can install.
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>> Being a serious newbie, what would be the proper steps to take to use the
>> tgz file and make it into something that I can use in LinuxMint 17. I've
>> tried and failed too many times already.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> PS: can anyone recommend a good book for the basics of using Linux for
>> someone that knows nothing? I've read two so far, but both talked about
>> system management, nothing about building kits that work.
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