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windows 8
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wb4ahd-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 14:04:23 UTC
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I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot from a cd dvd or usb device.
The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help please
Warren wb4ahd
Larry Levesque ka1vgm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:04:37 UTC
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UEFI / Secureboot.

Get into the BIOS and Turn off UEFI.

I believe on most systems for this to work, you have to set a BIOS password.

In the BIOS there should also be an option for Boot Order, make sure
USB/CD is above the hard drive.

The next part can be tricky and I suggest you do a google search for
UEFI / secure boot linux install.



On 09/30/2014 10:04 AM, wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot
> from a cd dvd or usb device.
>
> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
> please
>
> Warren wb4ahd
>
>

--
*KA1VGM
Larry Levesque*
Jeff Francis™ jeff-CDdbmnNP9qodnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:11:14 UTC
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With Ubuntu server, you need to do the following:

$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
$ sudo mkdir /mnt/EFI/BOOT
$ sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/* /mnt/EFI/BOOT
$ sudo mv /mnt/EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi

Probably best not to follow that verbatim (since it undoubtedly varies
per Linux), but it'll give you an idea of what you're looking for so you'll
know it when you see it. But that's the steps for my Intel NUC boxes with
UEFI.

Jeff N0GQ


On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Larry Levesque ka1vgm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
<linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> UEFI / Secureboot.
>
> Get into the BIOS and Turn off UEFI.
>
> I believe on most systems for this to work, you have to set a BIOS
> password.
>
> In the BIOS there should also be an option for Boot Order, make sure
> USB/CD is above the hard drive.
>
> The next part can be tricky and I suggest you do a google search for UEFI
> / secure boot linux install.
>
>
>
> On 09/30/2014 10:04 AM, wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
>
>
> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot from
> a cd dvd or usb device.
>
> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
> please
>
> Warren wb4ahd
>
>
> --
>
> *KA1VGM Larry Levesque*
>
>
>



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Edward Cambra ecambra-eH2+iSYPHcIAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:18:00 UTC
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I had purchased a laptop with Win 8 last year, and had hoped to set it
up as a dual boot. On this ASUS laptop, a BIOS password wasn't
required. After turning UEFI off, and installing Linux, there were
still issues with getting it to boot into Fedora 20. This process
wasn't too hard with Win XP or 7.0. After way too much time messing
with it, I finally lost my patience, and just obliterated Win 8 and have
run the laptop since under F20, and have been pretty happy with it.
It's MUCH less hassle than Win 8 or 8.1.

Larry's comment that a dual boot under Win 8 can be tricky is nicely
understated......

FWIW,

Ed
NN9D


On 9/30/14 12:04 PM, Larry Levesque ka1vgm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
> UEFI / Secureboot.
>
> Get into the BIOS and Turn off UEFI.
>
> I believe on most systems for this to work, you have to set a BIOS
> password.
>
> In the BIOS there should also be an option for Boot Order, make sure
> USB/CD is above the hard drive.
>
> The next part can be tricky and I suggest you do a google search for
> UEFI / secure boot linux install.
>
>
>
> On 09/30/2014 10:04 AM, wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>>
>> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot
>> from a cd dvd or usb device.
>>
>> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
>> please
>>
>> Warren wb4ahd
>>
>
> --
> *KA1VGM
> Larry Levesque*
>
Ernest Wagner aa1ad-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 17:54:59 UTC
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Once you turn off uefi, it shouldn't "need" a password. At least on my
Toshiba, it didn't. Once turned off, I had no problem installing Linux,
but at the same time, I had no interest in a dual installation: I wiped
Windows 8 off the drive. i hated the idea of having to buy a new pc with
Win 8 pre-installed in the first place.

--
73 From Ernie D

AA1AD | CN87ug

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Levesque ka1vgm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
<linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-to: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [linuxham] windows 8
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:04:37 -0400


UEFI / Secureboot.

Get into the BIOS and Turn off UEFI.

I believe on most systems for this to work, you have to set a BIOS
password.

In the BIOS there should also be an option for Boot Order, make sure
USB/CD is above the hard drive.

The next part can be tricky and I suggest you do a google search for
UEFI / secure boot linux install.





On 09/30/2014 10:04 AM, wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:

>
> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot
> from a cd dvd or usb device.
>
> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
> please
>
> Warren wb4ahd
>
>

--
KA1VGM
Larry Levesque






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Warren Stritter wb4ahd-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 20:04:20 UTC
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I think this is a little out of my ability. I guess I would have to have a
step by step procedure and some luck to fix this. Appreciate all of your
attempts to help me.
Warren wb4ahd

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ernest Wagner aa1ad-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Once you turn off uefi, it shouldn't "need" a password. At least on my
> Toshiba, it didn't. Once turned off, I had no problem installing Linux,
> but at the same time, I had no interest in a dual installation: I wiped
> Windows 8 off the drive. i hated the idea of having to buy a new pc with
> Win 8 pre-installed in the first place.
>
> --
> 73 From Ernie D
>
> AA1AD | CN87ug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Levesque ka1vgm-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
> <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-to: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
> To: linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [linuxham] windows 8
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:04:37 -0400
>
> UEFI / Secureboot.
>
> Get into the BIOS and Turn off UEFI.
>
> I believe on most systems for this to work, you have to set a BIOS
> password.
>
> In the BIOS there should also be an option for Boot Order, make sure
> USB/CD is above the hard drive.
>
> The next part can be tricky and I suggest you do a google search for
> UEFI / secure boot linux install.
>
> On 09/30/2014 10:04 AM, wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
> >
> > I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot
> > from a cd dvd or usb device.
> >
> > The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
> > please
> >
> > Warren wb4ahd
> >
> >
>
> --
> KA1VGM
> Larry Levesque
>
>
>
Robert Stiles kk5vd-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:24:34 UTC
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Is this an HP machine, you may not be able to, Dave W1HKJ has run into this issue himself, trying to install Linux on said machine. The hardware and software guy are conspiring against you.
Robert
KK5VD


> On Sep 30, 2014, at 9:04, "wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot from a cd dvd or usb device.
>
> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help please
>
> Warren wb4ahd
>
>
'Frank Dinger ,GM0CSZ' gm0csz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 10:43:41 UTC
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Warren's problem highlights the ever increasing 'lock-in-lack-of-freedom'
problem when you buy a ready-to-go PC/Laptop with M$oft ware installed.

As I have done myself I suggest people to buy a 'barebone' machine adding
a hard drive and other peripherals themselves.

There are also companies supplying PC desktops/laptops without an operating
system ; probably cheaper as well.

Frank , GM0CSZ / KN6WH usually in IO87at

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Robert Stiles kk5vd-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Is this an HP machine, you may not be able to, Dave W1HKJ has run into
> this issue himself, trying to install Linux on said machine. The hardware
> and software guy are conspiring against you.
> Robert
> KK5VD
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2014, at 9:04, "wb4ahd-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" <
> linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot from
> a cd dvd or usb device.
>
> The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help
> please
>
> Warren wb4ahd
>
>
>
'Rein Couperus' rein-8Y7XadH2FH5Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 12:01:27 UTC
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<p><span><span>I purchased a new computer with windows 8 and cannot unlock the boot from a cd dvd or usb device.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>The best buy geek squad are not allowed to help me how to do it. Help please</span></span></p>

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