Discussion:
Dumping Windows... Maybe
David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 23:29:06 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,
I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just
double clicking the spot?

I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?

Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info





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Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 23:49:47 UTC
Permalink
On 09/29/2014 07:29 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> Hi all,
> I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
> a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
> fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just
> double clicking the spot?

No, but XDX will.


> I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
> I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
> fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?

Read the Help files.

> Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
> my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
> MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
>

That doesn't happen here and its been years that it has. As list
moderator, I stop it before it gets out of hand. Best solution, just let
the thread die of old age.

Ed W3NR


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Posted by: Ed <autek-***@public.gmane.org>
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David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 11:40:10 UTC
Permalink
Hi Ed,

THanks for the info on XDX, I will see what that is... Never heard of
it...

I have looked over the manuals, and find nothing that will fire off on
mode change, and I was hoping I had missed it, and someone would help me
find it...

Read the manuals over and over...

Looking for a quick chat with an FLDigi expert is what is happening
here...

--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 19:49 -0400, Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
wrote:
> On 09/29/2014 07:29 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
> > a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
> > fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just
> > double clicking the spot?
>
> No, but XDX will.
>
>
> > I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
> > I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
> > fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
>
> Read the Help files.
>
> > Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
> > my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
> > MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
> >
>
> That doesn't happen here and its been years that it has. As list
> moderator, I stop it before it gets out of hand. Best solution, just let
> the thread die of old age.
>
> Ed W3NR
>
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: Ed <autek-***@public.gmane.org>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>



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Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
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'Mike Miller' lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:10:57 UTC
Permalink
Hi David,

If all else fails, and you can't find a suitable replacement for
Mix W, it appears that Mix W will run under WINE on a Linux box.
I'm not sure all features are 100% supported and it adds another
layer of complexity.
<https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10770>

73
Mike kc9doa

On 29 Sep 2014 at 16:29, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [lin wrote:

> Hi all,
> I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes...
> Is there
> a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's
> frequency,
> fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by
> just
> double clicking the spot?
>
> I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool
> things that
> I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro
> that gets
> fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
>
> Not looking to start a argument about which is better here,
> just getting
> my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping
> Windows, and
> MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>




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Posted by: "Mike Miller" <lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+***@public.gmane.org>
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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:53:55 UTC
Permalink
I used wine for Ham radio deluxe and it comes up however I cant seem to get
the com ports to work... does anyone know how to get that to work... the
ports that is?

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:10 AM, 'Mike Miller' lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
<linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Hi David,
>
> If all else fails, and you can't find a suitable replacement for
> Mix W, it appears that Mix W will run under WINE on a Linux box.
> I'm not sure all features are 100% supported and it adds another
> layer of complexity.
> <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10770>
>
> 73
> Mike kc9doa
>
> On 29 Sep 2014 at 16:29, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [lin wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes...
> > Is there
> > a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's
> > frequency,
> > fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by
> > just
> > double clicking the spot?
> >
> > I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool
> > things that
> > I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro
> > that gets
> > fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
> >
> > Not looking to start a argument about which is better here,
> > just getting
> > my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping
> > Windows, and
> > MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> > for MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > for Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > for MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
'Mike Miller' lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 18:27:57 UTC
Permalink
On 30 Sep 2014 at 10:53, David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org
[linuxha wrote:

> I used wine for Ham radio deluxe and it comes up however I cant
> seem to get
> the com ports to work... does anyone know how to get that to
> work... the
> ports that is?
Have you tried the symbolic link thing? I'm a total noob so I
just google things and hope I find an answer.
<https://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/misc-things-to-configure>

So far I just run FLDigi and friends plus a few other programs
in Linux. I haven't spent the time to try WINE yet. It is too
easy just to boot to XP when needed.

73
Mike kc9doa


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Posted by: "Mike Miller" <lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+***@public.gmane.org>
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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 18:46:09 UTC
Permalink
On 09/30/2014 12:53 PM, David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> I used wine for Ham radio deluxe and it comes up however I cant seem to get
> the com ports to work... does anyone know how to get that to work... the
> ports that is?

From the Wine documentation page::

4.3.1. Serial and Parallel Ports

Serial and parallel port configuration is very similar to drive
configuration - simply create a symbolic link in ~/.wine/dosdevices with
the name of the device. Windows serial ports follow a naming convention
of the word com followed by a number, such as com1, com2, etc.
Similarly, parallel ports use lpt followed by a number, such as lpt1.
You should link these directly to the corresponding Unix devices, such
as /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/lp0. Make sure you have the needed access rights
to that device. For example, to configure one serial port and one
parallel port, run the following commands:

ln -s /dev/ttyS0 com1
ln -s /dev/lp0 lpt1

Ed W3NR


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Posted by: Ed <autek-***@public.gmane.org>
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David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:10:05 UTC
Permalink
Mike,
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will look to see if it will! That would
answer every question I have...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 11:10 -0500, 'Mike Miller' lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+***@public.gmane.org
[linuxham] wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> If all else fails, and you can't find a suitable replacement for
> Mix W, it appears that Mix W will run under WINE on a Linux box.
> I'm not sure all features are 100% supported and it adds another
> layer of complexity.
> <https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10770>
>
> 73
> Mike kc9doa
>
> On 29 Sep 2014 at 16:29, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [lin wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes...
> > Is there
> > a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's
> > frequency,
> > fire off a macro, and enter all data from QRZ into the log by
> > just
> > double clicking the spot?
> >
> > I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool
> > things that
> > I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro
> > that gets
> > fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
> >
> > Not looking to start a argument about which is better here,
> > just getting
> > my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping
> > Windows, and
> > MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> > for MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > for Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > for MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: "Mike Miller" <lists-2PxNX0V3za/QT0dZR+***@public.gmane.org>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>



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Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
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Steve K0STK k0stk-WYrOkVUspZo@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 16:19:28 UTC
Permalink
"David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:

>I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
>a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
>fire off a macro,

Fldigi does not have a way of retrieving a spot list from an external
source (e.g. dxcluster). But it does have an xml-rpc interface which can
be used by an external program (e.g. a DX spot browser) to set the RF
carrier frequency and run a macro. This feature is documented at
http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.22/xmlrpc-control.html and a sample
perl xml-rpc client is shipped with the fldigi source code.

There are two ways that fldigi can select a digital mode QSO
from within the modem passband (on "on the waterfall"): a Signal Browser
(accessible from the "View" menu) and RSID.

The Signal Browser is works for some of the digital modes. Clicking on a
QSO line sets the waterfall cursor (i.e. tunes the modem) on that
frequency.

RSID (automatic mode detection and tuning) uses a special sequence of
tones transmitted at the beginning of each transmission to identify
and tune in the signals received. For this feature to work, not only
do you need to enable the feature in the receiver, but in addition the
stations you are wishing to tune in need to have this feature enabled on
transmission. Other programs also offer this RSID feature as an option.

>and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just double clicking the
>spot?

Not exactly.

Fldigi's interface has a "QRZ" button which can be used to populate the
logging interface with information on a Call. To use this feature you
either select the call sign by double clicking on it in the Receive pane
or by typing in in the "Call" box.

The "QRZ" button can be configured to look up call information from:

- a QRZ cdrom
- qrz.com
- hamcall.net
- hamqth.com
- callbook.info

>I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
>I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
>fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?

Not that I'm aware of. What do you need this macro to do?

>Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
>my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
>MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...

Has anyone tried running MixW in Wine? That might be a solution.

--
73, Steve K0STK // k0stk-***@public.gmane.org



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Posted by: Steve K0STK <k0stk-***@public.gmane.org>
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David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:24:04 UTC
Permalink
Hello Steve,

THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question regarding why
a macro for mode changes:

I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically it set
the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be used for
RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the radio to
preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub mode. When
I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting state. I also
preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance, if I move
to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set, the zero
beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is moved to
accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many things
get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my macros! :)

Your information helps me in looking for how to make this happen... I
really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program holding me
hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and them
MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another package.

As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package anyway, and
FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA and has
been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to MixW,
while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program, with an
active user community, so I am really looking for a way to make the
switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short step away.
All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single windows box
I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat wheel... My
path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a <shudder> Mac
before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
environment to use...
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 11:19 -0500, Steve K0STK k0stk-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
wrote:
> "David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:
>
> >I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
> >a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
> >fire off a macro,
>
> Fldigi does not have a way of retrieving a spot list from an external
> source (e.g. dxcluster). But it does have an xml-rpc interface which can
> be used by an external program (e.g. a DX spot browser) to set the RF
> carrier frequency and run a macro. This feature is documented at
> http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.22/xmlrpc-control.html and a sample
> perl xml-rpc client is shipped with the fldigi source code.
>
> There are two ways that fldigi can select a digital mode QSO
> from within the modem passband (on "on the waterfall"): a Signal Browser
> (accessible from the "View" menu) and RSID.
>
> The Signal Browser is works for some of the digital modes. Clicking on a
> QSO line sets the waterfall cursor (i.e. tunes the modem) on that
> frequency.
>
> RSID (automatic mode detection and tuning) uses a special sequence of
> tones transmitted at the beginning of each transmission to identify
> and tune in the signals received. For this feature to work, not only
> do you need to enable the feature in the receiver, but in addition the
> stations you are wishing to tune in need to have this feature enabled on
> transmission. Other programs also offer this RSID feature as an option.
>
> >and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just double clicking the
> >spot?
>
> Not exactly.
>
> Fldigi's interface has a "QRZ" button which can be used to populate the
> logging interface with information on a Call. To use this feature you
> either select the call sign by double clicking on it in the Receive pane
> or by typing in in the "Call" box.
>
> The "QRZ" button can be configured to look up call information from:
>
> - a QRZ cdrom
> - qrz.com
> - hamcall.net
> - hamqth.com
> - callbook.info
>
> >I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
> >I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
> >fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
>
> Not that I'm aware of. What do you need this macro to do?
>
> >Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
> >my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
> >MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
>
> Has anyone tried running MixW in Wine? That might be a solution.
>



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Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:30:03 UTC
Permalink
I believe that something like what you want to do COULD be done with Fldigi
using external scripts that are excecuted based upon commands from within
Fldigi. You would have to create a macro, say you call it "CW", and have
it set the mode in fldigi and then run the appropriate script that could
pass the information out to the K3.

Keep in mind, however, that under normal conditions, Fldigi does not do
true CW or true RTTY. It is audio-injected CW and AFSK.

73

Dave

Dave Wright
K3DCW

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Hello Steve,
>
> THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question regarding why
> a macro for mode changes:
>
> I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically it set
> the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be used for
> RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the radio to
> preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub mode. When
> I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting state. I also
> preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance, if I move
> to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set, the zero
> beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is moved to
> accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many things
> get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my macros! :)
>
> Your information helps me in looking for how to make this happen... I
> really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program holding me
> hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and them
> MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another package.
>
> As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package anyway, and
> FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA and has
> been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to MixW,
> while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program, with an
> active user community, so I am really looking for a way to make the
> switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short step away.
> All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single windows box
> I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat wheel... My
> path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a <shudder> Mac
> before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
> environment to use...
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
> On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 11:19 -0500, Steve K0STK k0stk-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
> wrote:
> > "David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]" said:
> >
> > >I assume most of you are using FLDigi for your linux boxes... Is there
> > >a way from a spot list, to get FLDigi to change the radio's frequency,
> > >fire off a macro,
> >
> > Fldigi does not have a way of retrieving a spot list from an external
> > source (e.g. dxcluster). But it does have an xml-rpc interface which can
> > be used by an external program (e.g. a DX spot browser) to set the RF
> > carrier frequency and run a macro. This feature is documented at
> > http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.22/xmlrpc-control.html and a sample
> > perl xml-rpc client is shipped with the fldigi source code.
> >
> > There are two ways that fldigi can select a digital mode QSO
> > from within the modem passband (on "on the waterfall"): a Signal Browser
> > (accessible from the "View" menu) and RSID.
> >
> > The Signal Browser is works for some of the digital modes. Clicking on a
> > QSO line sets the waterfall cursor (i.e. tunes the modem) on that
> > frequency.
> >
> > RSID (automatic mode detection and tuning) uses a special sequence of
> > tones transmitted at the beginning of each transmission to identify
> > and tune in the signals received. For this feature to work, not only
> > do you need to enable the feature in the receiver, but in addition the
> > stations you are wishing to tune in need to have this feature enabled on
> > transmission. Other programs also offer this RSID feature as an option.
> >
> > >and enter all data from QRZ into the log by just double clicking the
> > >spot?
> >
> > Not exactly.
> >
> > Fldigi's interface has a "QRZ" button which can be used to populate the
> > logging interface with information on a Call. To use this feature you
> > either select the call sign by double clicking on it in the Receive pane
> > or by typing in in the "Call" box.
> >
> > The "QRZ" button can be configured to look up call information from:
> >
> > - a QRZ cdrom
> > - qrz.com
> > - hamcall.net
> > - hamqth.com
> > - callbook.info
> >
> > >I am looking to replace MixW, and it has so many little cool things that
> > >I want to be sure FLDigi has most of them... I need a macro that gets
> > >fired off if I change modes... Can FLDigi do this?
> >
> > Not that I'm aware of. What do you need this macro to do?
> >
> > >Not looking to start a argument about which is better here, just getting
> > >my ducks lined up before I start down the path of dumping Windows, and
> > >MixW. The only reason I have kept Windows is MixW...
> >
> > Has anyone tried running MixW in Wine? That might be a solution.
> >
>
>
>
David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:35:12 UTC
Permalink
HI,
That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
greatly...

I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
to the "showstoppernes" of that.

--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:30 -0400, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org
[linuxham] wrote:
>
>
> I believe that something like what you want to do COULD be done with
> Fldigi using external scripts that are excecuted based upon commands
> from within Fldigi. You would have to create a macro, say you call it
> "CW", and have it set the mode in fldigi and then run the appropriate
> script that could pass the information out to the K3.
>
>
> Keep in mind, however, that under normal conditions, Fldigi does not
> do true CW or true RTTY. It is audio-injected CW and AFSK.
>
> 73
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dave Wright
> K3DCW
>
>
> "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
> <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Steve,
>
> THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question
> regarding why
> a macro for mode changes:
>
> I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically
> it set
> the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be
> used for
> RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the
> radio to
> preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub
> mode. When
> I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting
> state. I also
> preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance,
> if I move
> to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set,
> the zero
> beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is
> moved to
> accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many
> things
> get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my
> macros! :)
>
> Your information helps me in looking for how to make this
> happen... I
> really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program
> holding me
> hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and
> them
> MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another
> package.
>
> As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package
> anyway, and
> FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA
> and has
> been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to
> MixW,
> while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program,
> with an
> active user community, so I am really looking for a way to
> make the
> switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short
> step away.
> All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single
> windows box
> I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat
> wheel... My
> path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a
> <shudder> Mac
> before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
> environment to use...
>
>
>



------------------------------------
Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:38:18 UTC
Permalink
Interestingly enough, the K3 is as clean, if not cleaner in AFSK as it is
in FSK. With the K3, it shouldn't matter too much too you.

See http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/K3/Content/digital.html for
comparisons made using CocoaModem and a Mac, but the principles apply to
Fldigi and Linux as well.

Dave Wright
K3DCW

"Real radio bounces off the sky"

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> HI,
> That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
> I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
> greatly...
>
> I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
> to the "showstoppernes" of that.
>
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
> On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:30 -0400, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org
> [linuxham] wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe that something like what you want to do COULD be done with
> > Fldigi using external scripts that are excecuted based upon commands
> > from within Fldigi. You would have to create a macro, say you call it
> > "CW", and have it set the mode in fldigi and then run the appropriate
> > script that could pass the information out to the K3.
> >
> >
> > Keep in mind, however, that under normal conditions, Fldigi does not
> > do true CW or true RTTY. It is audio-injected CW and AFSK.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Dave Wright
> > K3DCW
> >
> >
> > "Real radio bounces off the sky"
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
> > <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Steve,
> >
> > THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question
> > regarding why
> > a macro for mode changes:
> >
> > I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically
> > it set
> > the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be
> > used for
> > RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the
> > radio to
> > preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub
> > mode. When
> > I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting
> > state. I also
> > preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance,
> > if I move
> > to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set,
> > the zero
> > beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is
> > moved to
> > accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many
> > things
> > get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my
> > macros! :)
> >
> > Your information helps me in looking for how to make this
> > happen... I
> > really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program
> > holding me
> > hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and
> > them
> > MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another
> > package.
> >
> > As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package
> > anyway, and
> > FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA
> > and has
> > been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to
> > MixW,
> > while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program,
> > with an
> > active user community, so I am really looking for a way to
> > make the
> > switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short
> > step away.
> > All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single
> > windows box
> > I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat
> > wheel... My
> > path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a
> > <shudder> Mac
> > before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
> > environment to use...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:49:55 UTC
Permalink
Hi,
I think the part that bothers me most about not going into CW mode for
CW mode contact, is I can't use the CW filters, etc... Or at least that
was the case for my old Icom... I need to look at the K3 and see what
it does between USB and CW... I suspect it shifts things around, and if
I stay in SSB for a CW contact, my sidetone frequency preset will be
gone, and replaced with something within FLDigi I presume?
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:38 -0400, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org
[linuxham] wrote:
>
>
> Interestingly enough, the K3 is as clean, if not cleaner in AFSK as it
> is in FSK. With the K3, it shouldn't matter too much too you.
>
> See http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/K3/Content/digital.html for
> comparisons made using CocoaModem and a Mac, but the principles apply
> to Fldigi and Linux as well.
>
>
> Dave Wright
> K3DCW
>
>
> "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
> <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> HI,
> That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that
> information!
> I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying
> bothers me
> greatly...
>
> I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a
> decision as
> to the "showstoppernes" of that.
>
>
>
>



------------------------------------
Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
Joel Black w4jbb-xwVYE8SWAR3R7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 00:20:03 UTC
Permalink
Dave,

I'm not really following the thread (having moved from Windows to a Mac
in late 2012), but this post piqued my interest. I have been using FSK
RTTY with RUMlog which interfaces with cocoaModem thinking that I would
have a cleaner waveform than with AFSK. According to the link you
posted, I was wrong. Thanks.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 9/30/14, 6:38 PM, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> Interestingly enough, the K3 is as clean, if not cleaner in AFSK as it
> is in FSK. With the K3, it shouldn't matter too much too you.
>
> See http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/K3/Content/digital.html for
> comparisons made using CocoaModem and a Mac, but the principles apply
> to Fldigi and Linux as well.
>
> Dave Wright
> K3DCW
>
> "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:dave-***@public.gmane.org> [linuxham] <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>> wrote:
>
> HI,
> That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that
> information!
> I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
> greatly...
>
> I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a
> decision as
> to the "showstoppernes" of that.
>
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net <http://www.nk7z.net>
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
> On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:30 -0400, Dave Wright
> hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org <mailto:hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org>
> [linuxham] wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe that something like what you want to do COULD be done with
> > Fldigi using external scripts that are excecuted based upon commands
> > from within Fldigi. You would have to create a macro, say you
> call it
> > "CW", and have it set the mode in fldigi and then run the
> appropriate
> > script that could pass the information out to the K3.
> >
> >
> > Keep in mind, however, that under normal conditions, Fldigi does not
> > do true CW or true RTTY. It is audio-injected CW and AFSK.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Dave Wright
> > K3DCW
> >
> >
> > "Real radio bounces off the sky"
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:dave-***@public.gmane.org> [linuxham]
> > <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org <mailto:linuxham-***@public.gmane.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Steve,
> >
> > THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question
> > regarding why
> > a macro for mode changes:
> >
> > I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically
> > it set
> > the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be
> > used for
> > RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the
> > radio to
> > preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub
> > mode. When
> > I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting
> > state. I also
> > preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance,
> > if I move
> > to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set,
> > the zero
> > beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is
> > moved to
> > accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many
> > things
> > get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my
> > macros! :)
> >
> > Your information helps me in looking for how to make this
> > happen... I
> > really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program
> > holding me
> > hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and
> > them
> > MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another
> > package.
> >
> > As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package
> > anyway, and
> > FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA
> > and has
> > been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to
> > MixW,
> > while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program,
> > with an
> > active user community, so I am really looking for a way to
> > make the
> > switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short
> > step away.
> > All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single
> > windows box
> > I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat
> > wheel... My
> > path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a
> > <shudder> Mac
> > before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
> > environment to use...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 00:22:20 UTC
Permalink
Note, this is true for the K3, not other rigs; and it does rely upon having
the settings (particularly the ALC bars) set just right. If you do it
right, you are cleaner running AFSK than FSK, but the difference isn't huge
at any level.

Glad you found it to be useful.

Dave Wright
K3DCW

​www.machamradio.com​


"Real radio bounces off the sky"

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Joel Black w4jbb-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm not really following the thread (having moved from Windows to a Mac in
> late 2012), but this post piqued my interest. I have been using FSK RTTY
> with RUMlog which interfaces with cocoaModem thinking that I would have a
> cleaner waveform than with AFSK. According to the link you posted, I was
> wrong. Thanks.
>
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
>
> On 9/30/14, 6:38 PM, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
>
>
> Interestingly enough, the K3 is as clean, if not cleaner in AFSK as it
> is in FSK. With the K3, it shouldn't matter too much too you.
>
> See http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/K3/Content/digital.html for
> comparisons made using CocoaModem and a Mac, but the principles apply to
> Fldigi and Linux as well.
>
> Dave Wright
> K3DCW
>
> "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] <
> linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> HI,
>> That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
>> I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
>> greatly...
>>
>> I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
>> to the "showstoppernes" of that.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and 73's,
>> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
>> www.nk7z.net
>> for MixW support see;
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
>> for Dopplergram information see:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
>> for MM-SSTV see:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>>
>> On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:30 -0400, Dave Wright hfradiopro-***@public.gmane.org
>> [linuxham] wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I believe that something like what you want to do COULD be done with
>> > Fldigi using external scripts that are excecuted based upon commands
>> > from within Fldigi. You would have to create a macro, say you call it
>> > "CW", and have it set the mode in fldigi and then run the appropriate
>> > script that could pass the information out to the K3.
>> >
>> >
>> > Keep in mind, however, that under normal conditions, Fldigi does not
>> > do true CW or true RTTY. It is audio-injected CW and AFSK.
>> >
>> > 73
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave Wright
>> > K3DCW
>> >
>> >
>> > "Real radio bounces off the sky"
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
>> > <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Steve,
>> >
>> > THANK YOU for the information... To answer your question
>> > regarding why
>> > a macro for mode changes:
>> >
>> > I have a K3, it has a "special" sub mode for RTTY. Basically
>> > it set
>> > the rig up in LSB, flat audio, allows a special filter to be
>> > used for
>> > RTTY, etc. Under MixW I fire off a set of hex commands to the
>> > radio to
>> > preset several things like this, and to trigger the RTTY sub
>> > mode. When
>> > I leave RTTY, I return the rig back to a standard resting
>> > state. I also
>> > preset a number of things as I change modes... For instance,
>> > if I move
>> > to CW, via MixW, the radio is changed, the bandwidth is set,
>> > the zero
>> > beat is set, the monitor level is set, and the IF passband is
>> > moved to
>> > accommodate the new zero beat frequency... Same for SSB, many
>> > things
>> > get set when I change modes... As you can tell, I like my
>> > macros! :)
>> >
>> > Your information helps me in looking for how to make this
>> > happen... I
>> > really want to leave Windows, but MixW is the single program
>> > holding me
>> > hostage to Windows... I may run a virtual box within Linux and
>> > them
>> > MixW if I can't find a way to do what it does with another
>> > package.
>> >
>> > As an aside, I would like to get onto a supported package
>> > anyway, and
>> > FLDigi is supported. My problem with MixW is the author is MIA
>> > and has
>> > been for 3 or more years... I expect no more real updates to
>> > MixW,
>> > while FLDigi continues on as a supported, and updated program,
>> > with an
>> > active user community, so I am really looking for a way to
>> > make the
>> > switch anyway... Once on FLDigi, Linux is only a very short
>> > step away.
>> > All of my other machines are running Debian, and the single
>> > windows box
>> > I have is running XP. I have opted off the windows rat
>> > wheel... My
>> > path for Windows is at an end with XP... I will run a
>> > <shudder> Mac
>> > before I return to Windows. But Linux is here, and a wonderful
>> > environment to use...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:39:17 UTC
Permalink
On 09/30/2014 07:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> HI,
> That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
> I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
> greatly...
>
> I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
> to the "showstoppernes" of that.
>

If you have a winkeyer, you could try flwkey. With fldigi I just use my
key to do fills and let fldigi do the rest.

Ed W3NR


------------------------------------
Posted by: Ed <autek-***@public.gmane.org>
------------------------------------
David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 23:51:54 UTC
Permalink
Hi Ed,
Thank you for that info as well... I have no issue if I can get into CW
mode, too many features on the radio to pass by... I will look into
winkeyer... Never heard of it until a few weeks ago... THANKS AGAIN
SIR!
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:39 -0400, Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
wrote:
> On 09/30/2014 07:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> > HI,
> > That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
> > I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
> > greatly...
> >
> > I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
> > to the "showstoppernes" of that.
> >
>
> If you have a winkeyer, you could try flwkey. With fldigi I just use my
> key to do fills and let fldigi do the rest.
>
> Ed W3NR
>
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: Ed <autek-***@public.gmane.org>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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Posted by: David Cole <dave-***@public.gmane.org>
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David Cole dave-0ILqX6cLdjY@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-01 00:00:02 UTC
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Hi Ed,
Thanks for the tip on Winkey... I really had no idea what it was until
I read all the info on it and your program... That pretty well removes
the direct keying issue I had... THANKS!!!

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On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 19:39 -0400, Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
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> On 09/30/2014 07:35 PM, David Cole dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham] wrote:
> > HI,
> > That is an item I just learned about... Thank you for that information!
> > I still may look at FLDigi, but not having direct keying bothers me
> > greatly...
> >
> > I need to sort out why it bothers me so much before I make a decision as
> > to the "showstoppernes" of that.
> >
>
> If you have a winkeyer, you could try flwkey. With fldigi I just use my
> key to do fills and let fldigi do the rest.
>
> Ed W3NR
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