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How to link FLDIGI to my IC718
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kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-28 18:06:21 UTC
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I'm having a terrible time getting FLDIGI to liink up to my Icom IC718 for rig cotrol and just to transmit. I remember having the same problems with this program using Windows, but eventually figured it out. No luck with this new OS. I have a few freinds that are Linux users but don't have the same setup like mine. Please be gentle.
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-28 19:37:16 UTC
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Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I'm having a terrible time getting FLDIGI to liink up to my Icom
IC718 for rig cotrol and just to transmit. I remember having the same
problems with this program using Windows, but eventually figured it
out. No luck with this new OS. I have a few freinds that are Linux
users but don't have the same setup like mine. Please be gentle.
Are you in the dialout group ? If not you need to be for TX to work.

Ed W3NR


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Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-28 19:39:39 UTC
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Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I'm having a terrible time getting FLDIGI to liink up to my Icom
IC718 for rig cotrol and just to transmit. I remember having the same
problems with this program using Windows, but eventually figured it
out. No luck with this new OS. I have a few freinds that are Linux
users but don't have the same setup like mine. Please be gentle.
Have you read the Help files for rig control ?

Ed W3NR


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kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 02:16:28 UTC
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Yep, And no luck.
kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 02:21:35 UTC
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What is the dialout group?
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 02:25:47 UTC
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In Ubuntu (and derivatives like Mint), the user has to be a member of the
dialout group before they can use the TTY ports to communicate with other
devices.

simply open terminal

sudo adduser username dialout

Replace username with your username, type your password when instructed to
do so, and then logout and back in. You should be a member of the dialout
group at that time.

Does it work now?



Dave Wright
K3DCW

"Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
What is the dialout group?
kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 04:05:55 UTC
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I was able to add myself, but I still can't get the serial DTR to turn on to alow my radio to transmit
Dave Wright hfradiopro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 04:37:48 UTC
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Look back at the message from Ed:

Are you using RigCAT, HamLib or perhaps Flrig?

That will help everyone know how to help you.

--
Dave Wright
K3DCW

www.machamradio.com

“Real radio bounces off the sky"
Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I was able to add myself, but I still can't get the serial DTR to turn on to alow my radio to transmit
'Frank Dinger ,GM0CSZ' gm0csz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 13:10:43 UTC
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In a terminal do the following ;

sudo adduser < yourusername> dialout

When entering your user name do not include < >


Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH in IO87at
Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
What is the dialout group?
Edwin Hollander egholland-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 17:01:14 UTC
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Icom 718 Rigs do not have a serial port command for the Transmit Function. The RTS or DTR can be used to impliment a circuit that can pull the PTT to a ground state that causes the rig to go into transmit mode. However - requires two serial ports to impliment the functions of rig control and another one to actually pull the PTT low.


Icom 7000's however do have a Transmit function that can be sent as a serial port command as a CAT interface which does not use the RTS or DTR lines.


I enjoy the IC-718 rigs and they are great for their simplicity - however parts have to be done as hardware control to effect the transmit function - I usually set the VOX control for the transmit function - and that works without the hard interface to the PTT. Been using that for 3 years. I just use the direct patch cables for transmit audio - with a remote monitor to prevent overdrive - and another patch cable for the recieve audio from either the speaker or the headphone port to the line-in.


Hope this helps.
Guy - KI4TLY

Kiss principle. The more complex a solution is - the more likely something is really going to go wrong.



On Monday, September 29, 2014 9:10 AM, "'Frank Dinger ,GM0CSZ' ***@gmail.com [linuxham]" <linuxham-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:




In a terminal do the following ;

sudo adduser < yourusername> dialout

When entering your user name do not include < >


Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH in IO87at
Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
What is the dialout group?
Cliff Scott ae5zaham-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 18:41:53 UTC
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I don’t mean to contradict you, butI have a 718 Rig and use only one serial port for both functions. The Serial port uses DTR & RTS for the TX function as you said, but also it can pass CAT info with the right cable. You can make one or buy one as I did, that will connect to both the C-IV (Remote control) jack and the Accessory socket on the 718 from one serial or USB port to do all both functions.

As you said the VOX will work also for Xmit.

Cliff Scott
AE5ZA
Post by Edwin Hollander egholland-/***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Icom 718 Rigs do not have a serial port command for the Transmit Function. The RTS or DTR can be used to impliment a circuit that can pull the PTT to a ground state that causes the rig to go into transmit mode. However - requires two serial ports to impliment the functions of rig control and another one to actually pull the PTT low.
Icom 7000's however do have a Transmit function that can be sent as a serial port command as a CAT interface which does not use the RTS or DTR lines.
I enjoy the IC-718 rigs and they are great for their simplicity - however parts have to be done as hardware control to effect the transmit function - I usually set the VOX control for the transmit function - and that works without the hard interface to the PTT. Been using that for 3 years. I just use the direct patch cables for transmit audio - with a remote monitor to prevent overdrive - and another patch cable for the recieve audio from either the speaker or the headphone port to the line-in.
Hope this helps.
Guy - KI4TLY
Kiss principle. The more complex a solution is - the more likely something is really going to go wrong.
In a terminal do the following ;
sudo adduser < yourusername> dialout
When entering your user name do not include < >
Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH in IO87at
What is the dialout group?
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-28 19:55:37 UTC
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Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I'm having a terrible time getting FLDIGI to liink up to my Icom
IC718 for rig cotrol and just to transmit. I remember having the same
problems with this program using Windows, but eventually figured it
out. No luck with this new OS. I have a few freinds that are Linux
users but don't have the same setup like mine. Please be gentle.
Are you trying to use rigCAT, flrig, or hamlib ?

Ed W3NR


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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 20:27:58 UTC
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I am using fldigi3.32.83 here as well and am able to get the rig to keyup
with vox however I would like to have some frequency control of fldigi.
because i use it for emergency communications and fldigi has a great way to
send and recieve special messages that no other program can do even close.
so The biggest problem I have is trying to find the usb/comport for my Icom
746. It is not easy and it hasnt never worked that way any help would be
appreciated thanks Dave -K7DV ps iit does work fine on the microsoft side
of things but I get tired of it crashing all of the time so went to linux
... Much more stable!!
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 21:20:53 UTC
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Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am using fldigi3.32.83 here as well and am able to get the rig to keyup
with vox however I would like to have some frequency control of fldigi.
because i use it for emergency communications and fldigi has a great way to
send and recieve special messages that no other program can do even close.
so The biggest problem I have is trying to find the usb/comport for my Icom
746. It is not easy and it hasnt never worked that way any help would be
appreciated thanks Dave -K7DV ps iit does work fine on the microsoft side
of things but I get tired of it crashing all of the time so went to linux
... Much more stable!!
Serial port or USB ?

Also::

http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/rig_control_page.html

Ed W3NR


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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 22:34:03 UTC
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usb
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am using fldigi3.32.83 here as well and am able to get the rig to keyup
with vox however I would like to have some frequency control of fldigi.
because i use it for emergency communications and fldigi has a great way
to
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
send and recieve special messages that no other program can do even
close.
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
so The biggest problem I have is trying to find the usb/comport for my
Icom
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
746. It is not easy and it hasnt never worked that way any help would be
appreciated thanks Dave -K7DV ps iit does work fine on the microsoft side
of things but I get tired of it crashing all of the time so went to linux
... Much more stable!!
Serial port or USB ?
http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp-3.21/html/rig_control_page.html
Ed W3NR
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 22:40:07 UTC
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usb
Since you provided so little info, this is just a guess. Both baud rates
have to be the same, make sure "echo commands" is checked. From the drop
down box select USB0, click the red init and you *should* be good to go.

Be helpful if we knew as to what you are using, rigCAT, flrig or ?

Ed W3NR



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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 22:57:14 UTC
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I am trying all of them I use flrig too I will try rigcat if it is better
not having much lucck I use a interface and its for aan Icom 746, have
tried to use fldigi standalone also.
Post by Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
usb
Since you provided so little info, this is just a guess. Both baud rates
have to be the same, make sure "echo commands" is checked. From the drop
down box select USB0, click the red init and you *should* be good to go.
Be helpful if we knew as to what you are using, rigCAT, flrig or ?
Ed W3NR
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 23:02:36 UTC
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Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am trying all of them I use flrig too I will try rigcat if it is better
not having much lucck I use a interface and its for aan Icom 746, have
tried to use fldigi standalone also.
Why would you use the 746 and not the 718 which is also supported in
flrig. Makes no sense to me.

Ed W3NR



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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 05:07:44 UTC
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I Use 746 becaue I use a 746 radio?
Post by Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am trying all of them I use flrig too I will try rigcat if it is better
not having much lucck I use a interface and its for aan Icom 746, have
tried to use fldigi standalone also.
Why would you use the 746 and not the 718 which is also supported in
flrig. Makes no sense to me.
Ed W3NR
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 12:02:30 UTC
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Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I Use 746 becaue I use a 746 radio?
Post by Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am trying all of them I use flrig too I will try rigcat if it is better
not having much lucck I use a interface and its for aan Icom 746, have
tried to use fldigi standalone also.
Why would you use the 746 and not the 718 which is also supported in
flrig. Makes no sense to me.
Ed W3NR
Sorry, the thread is about a 718 and I assumed you were using one.

Ed W3NR


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David Jolley k7dv.dave-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-29 23:04:06 UTC
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Hey I have tried several ways but us seggestion worked the first time I
guess Its better to ask and listen than to keep trying everything Thanks so
much Buddy
Post by David Jolley k7dv.dave-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I am trying all of them I use flrig too I will try rigcat if it is better
not having much lucck I use a interface and its for aan Icom 746, have
tried to use fldigi standalone also.
Post by Ed autek-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
usb
Since you provided so little info, this is just a guess. Both baud rates
have to be the same, make sure "echo commands" is checked. From the drop
down box select USB0, click the red init and you *should* be good to go.
Be helpful if we knew as to what you are using, rigCAT, flrig or ?
Ed W3NR
kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 14:10:18 UTC
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I finally got my 718 to key up after fixing the command line for the dial-up group and the PTT control tab on FLDIGI.Now I'm having difficulty in getting the program to "talk" to the 718 for rig control. Been trying both the Hamlib and Rigcat and no luck. Do I need to alter the 718.xml file? I was thinking I had to do something like that years ago to get it to function when using window, but I don't remember and can't find anything on the web.
Ed autek-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-09-30 14:41:09 UTC
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Post by kk.n8vkx-***@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
I finally got my 718 to key up after fixing the command line for the
dial-up group and the PTT control tab on FLDIGI.Now I'm having
difficulty in getting the program to "talk" to the 718 for rig
control. Been trying both the Hamlib and Rigcat and no luck. Do I
need to alter the 718.xml file? I was thinking I had to do something
like that years ago to get it to function when using window, but I
don't remember and can't find anything on the web.
In rigCAT make sure the Echo Commands box is checked and that the baud
rates are the same.

Ed W3NR


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kk.n8vkx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [linuxham]
2014-10-02 01:38:47 UTC
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Thanks for the help. I still could not get FLDIGI to key and talk to my radio. I could get the program to do one or the other but not both. So I loaded up and configured FLRIG. Then linked it to FLDIGI, and "WA LA!" everyhting is functioning.
Now I need to figure out how to get my dual out video card to work with UBUNTU.to run 2 monitors. I can't figure out how to get my computer to see it, even after messing with the BIOS.
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